Front Stage Amp

[beyondlogix 0]

I'm wondering what most people use for a good quality front stage. The amp I'm currently using is a TMA T320.4 (JL company).

It does the following:

60W x 4 @ 4 ohm

80W x 4 @ 2 ohm

160W x 2 @ 4ohm (bridged)

Speakers used in conjunction with: 6.5" CDT Audio ES-620, rated for 150W @ 4ohm

I just picked up a SAZ-1000D and a 12" Fi Q and these will be running together. This leaves the TMA to run my front stage solely. I'm worried about bridging the amp because its a pretty cheap amp, and I figure it'll be toast within a year or so if I bridge (if that). Also, the power isn't terribly clean as its a cheap brand amp, though the quality is good (I'm running 60W x 4 out of just 2 channels, non-bridged).

So the question is, for 150W each channel, what kind of amp would you suggest? I'll be running 4awg wiring through a distribution into both amps.

[Adrian_D 520]

Have you looked at the SAX100.4 from Sundown ?

That would be my pick.

[sick6ness 1]

Alpine PDX-4.150, Thats what I use, and I love the thing

[fuzzyping 0]

Sundown Audio SAX-100.4. No-brainer.

[sick6ness 1]

Sundown Audio SAX-100.4. No-brainer.

Hes asking for 150 rms per channel

[Duran 387]

Sundown Audio SAX-100.4. No-brainer.

Hes asking for 150 rms per channel

It does very close to 150.

The 100.4 also gets my vote.

[sick6ness 1]

@ 4 ohms? I didn't realize it was that underrated.

[Duran 387]

@ 4 ohms? I didn't realize it was that underrated.

About 125 at 4 ohms. You will not tell the difference in 25 watts.

[beyondlogix 0]

I was looking at the SAX-125.2

SAX-125.2 at SSA Shop

I saw the SAX-100.4 but I had a couple problems with it. 1) It only does 100W @ 4ohm. 2) Bridged, it does 320W x 2 @4ohm. There is just no need for this much power for my speakers. It's also $150 more expensive than the SAX-125.2, and for what I'm using it for, I figure the SAX-125.2 will be more than enough power. I understand these Sundowns are usually under rated, so I'm thinking I could get 135-140W out of each channel. Does anyone have experience with the SAX-125.2? And thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate the feedback.

Edited February 15, 2009 by beyondlogix

[ABXX49 20]

Are you looking for a four channel or a two channel amp?

[Duran 387]

I was looking at the SAX-125.2

SAX-125.2 at SSA Shop

I saw the SAX-100.4 but I had a couple problems with it. 1) It only does 100W @ 4ohm. 2) Bridged, it does 320W x 2 @4ohm. There is just no need for this much power for my speakers. It's also $150 more expensive than the SAX-125.2, and for what I'm using it for, I figure the SAX-125.2 will be more than enough power. I understand these Sundowns are usually under rated, so I'm thinking I could get 135-140W out of each channel. Does anyone have experience with the SAX-125.2? And thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate the feedback.

Jake started off with the 100.2, and that was so underrated that he changed the name to the 125.2.

[Kanaworm$ 292]

Sundown SAX-1004D.

A 4 channel amp you can go active with. Great amp and crossover network!

[beyondlogix 0]

I was looking at the SAX-125.2

SAX-125.2 at SSA Shop

I saw the SAX-100.4 but I had a couple problems with it. 1) It only does 100W @ 4ohm. 2) Bridged, it does 320W x 2 @4ohm. There is just no need for this much power for my speakers. It's also $150 more expensive than the SAX-125.2, and for what I'm using it for, I figure the SAX-125.2 will be more than enough power. I understand these Sundowns are usually under rated, so I'm thinking I could get 135-140W out of each channel. Does anyone have experience with the SAX-125.2? And thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate the feedback.

Jake started off with the 100.2, and that was so underrated that he changed the name to the 125.2.

So you're saying I will get true power out of it, 125W x 2?

[Duran 387]

I was looking at the SAX-125.2

SAX-125.2 at SSA Shop

I saw the SAX-100.4 but I had a couple problems with it. 1) It only does 100W @ 4ohm. 2) Bridged, it does 320W x 2 @4ohm. There is just no need for this much power for my speakers. It's also $150 more expensive than the SAX-125.2, and for what I'm using it for, I figure the SAX-125.2 will be more than enough power. I understand these Sundowns are usually under rated, so I'm thinking I could get 135-140W out of each channel. Does anyone have experience with the SAX-125.2? And thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate the feedback.

Jake started off with the 100.2, and that was so underrated that he changed the name to the 125.2.

So you're saying I will get true power out of it, 125W x 2?

Yes you are correct.

[beyondlogix 0]

I was looking at the SAX-125.2

SAX-125.2 at SSA Shop

I saw the SAX-100.4 but I had a couple problems with it. 1) It only does 100W @ 4ohm. 2) Bridged, it does 320W x 2 @4ohm. There is just no need for this much power for my speakers. It's also $150 more expensive than the SAX-125.2, and for what I'm using it for, I figure the SAX-125.2 will be more than enough power. I understand these Sundowns are usually under rated, so I'm thinking I could get 135-140W out of each channel. Does anyone have experience with the SAX-125.2? And thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate the feedback.

Jake started off with the 100.2, and that was so underrated that he changed the name to the 125.2.

So you're saying I will get true power out of it, 125W x 2?

Yes you are correct.

OK, thanks. It seems that the consensus is for the SAX-100.4. This is a little over budget, but I will definitely consider it. Does any one at all recommend the SAX-125.2?

[Duran 387]

We will all say to go with Sundown, the 125.2 is a fantastic amp, but it's nice to have some flexibility and overhead.

[B7L|BL4Z3R 4]

We will all say to go with Sundown, the 125.2 is a fantastic amp, but it's nice to have some flexibility and overhead.

agreed

[ABXX49 20]

The 100.4 will allow you to eventually go active if you want to. It has a very impressive on board crossover.

[beyondlogix 0]

How do you guys feel about refurb products? I found a SAX-100.4D for $325. Yes, he's authorized.

[Duran 387]

How do you guys feel about refurb products? I found a SAX-100.4D for $325. Yes, he's authorized.

If it's from dB-r you will in good shape. They are the authorized Sundown repair center.

[beyondlogix 0]

How do you guys feel about refurb products? I found a SAX-100.4D for $325. Yes, he's authorized.

If it's from dB-r you will in good shape. They are the authorized Sundown repair center.

Good deal... he's fairly local too.

[MKader17 332]

I wouldn't hesitate to own a db-r refurb, actually, I do own one...

Do you plan on getting rid of your TMA amp?

[beyondlogix 0]

I wouldn't hesitate to own a db-r refurb, actually, I do own one...

Do you plan on getting rid of your TMA amp?

Yup. TMA T320.4, and the sub, TMA T12S4P (12" Single Voice Coil). Along with 8awg wiring, no need for that anymore.

Edited February 15, 2009 by beyondlogix