Choosing New Subwoofers

[NB50 206]

So I will be in the market for new sub woofers and I need some help narrowing/making a choice.

They will be 2 12's

What I'm looking for out of the sub is some thing that will play nicely with the front stage, which will consist of Mach 5 mli65's in the doors and seas 27TFNN's in the pillars being ran active by an 880prs. I'm sure 2 12's will have more then enough output for me so that is not being considered. The subs will start out their life in a sealed enclosure but I would like them to be versatile enough to experiment with different enclosures.

Power available is 1400 ~ 1600 @1ohm and I have no idea at other impedances its a sundown Audio prototype.

Price range looking at 0 to $300 per driver

Some subwoofers that I have been looking at are (in no particular order)

SSA Icon 12's

Incriminator Audio Flatlyne 12s ( They are on sale right now)

Stereo Integrity Magv4 (problem only D2 available so only a 2 ohm load on amp for the pair ~300 to 400 per driver and heard they are a sealed only driver)

SoundSplinter RL-P 12s ( problem only D2 available so only a 2 ohm load on amp for the pair ~300 to 400 per driver)

Mach 5 IXL 12's ( problem only D2 available so only a 2 ohm load on amp for the pair ~300 to 400 per driver)

Diamond Audio D6 ( heard them awhile ago and was surprised by them)

JBL W12GTi Mkii ( D6ohm, Odd ohm load but shouldn't be a problem)

JL Audio 12W6v2 ( Kinda pricey)

Soundstream R1-12L ( Not to much information on these around Also pricey)

Polk Audio SR12 ( havent heard much on them)

Oz Audio Me 12.4 ( could be difficult to find)

If I forgot any information let me know.

Any other suggestions will be taken note of.

[diablo_331 23]

ive heard the icons and flatlynes....they both were amazing but id go with the flatlyne

[rushnrun 14]

The only woofer I know anything about is the Diamond Audio D6, I ran a pair of D5/D6 10's for over a year and loved them--they're my all-time favorite woofer that I've ever owned. The D5's I ran for a year straight doing spl comps as well as street beating. I ran roughly 1700 watts daily to them with no issues.. the D6's had a fairly short life as I uped my power and toasted them at the first comp I went to (151db on 3400 watts sealed on the dash-street class--they only made the one run)

*the D6's sounded just as good as the D5's for daily--however I only spent 3 months with them.

I ran my pair of 10's in roughly 2.5cubes tuned 30hz for daily... great lows.

[NB50 206]

ive heard the icons and flatlynes....they both were amazing but id go with the flatlyne

reasoning??

The D6's I've heard were pretty loud but again I am not concerned about output they were also crisp on the notes they played. But I really don't know to much of the setup they were in as far as box volume and tuning. I am going to assume that it was a relatively high tuning as it was at a local audio shop and looked to be a prefab box.

Edit: Spelling error bugging me

Edited December 11, 2008 by bromo

[akjay907 0]

Out of that list, I would go for the ICONs.

You should check out the Ascendant Audio HAVOC ASCENDANT AUDIO HAVOC LINK

Or A Fi Q. They both sound insanely good in my opinion and have really cheap prices.

[NB50 206]

Both Fi and AA are viable options but I'm not sure I want to go in that direction.

Out of the list the I have narrowed down some, it was difficult but have cut some out.

The ones left are.

SSA Icon 12's

Incriminator Audio Flatlyne 12s ( They are on sale right now)

SoundSplinter RL-P 12s ( problem only D2 available so only a 2 ohm load on amp for the pair ~300 to 400 per driver)

Mach 5 IXL 12's ( problem only D2 available so only a 2 ohm load on amp for the pair ~300 to 400 per driver)

Diamond Audio D6 ( heard them awhile ago and was surprised by them)

JBL W12GTi Mkii ( D6ohm, Odd ohm load but shouldn't be a problem)

The JBL is on the edge of being cut because of recent information on them not handling over powering (could be a problem when testing different alignments) and trouble of getting a recone, but was told they sound really good. The two dual 2 ohm drivers are on the edge of being cut also for coil options and the RL-p may be a problem for oringinal parts (I know other companies can recone them). The D6 could also be trouble in the reconing department.

[rushnrun 14]

The D6 could also be trouble in the reconing department.

D6's cannot be rebuilt by diamond. Fi will/can recone them but you have to send them in to get it done (I checked on it for my blown 10's)

[subwoofery 0]

I'd choose ICON for ported or SI Mag v.4 for sealed... but that's just me

Hope that helps,

Kelvin

PS: ICON works great sealed too

Edited December 13, 2008 by subwoofery

[NB50 206]

The D6 could also be trouble in the reconing department.

D6's cannot be rebuilt by diamond. Fi will/can recone them but you have to send them in to get it done (I checked on it for my blown 10's)

To me that is more of a reason not to go with D6's

I think my choices are down to Flatlynes or Icons.

[ABXX49 20]

I would like to see some Flatlynes. I haven't really heard to awful much about them. I'd like to read a good review

[akjay907 0]

Im going to build an enclosure for my freinds Flatlynes next week, i will tell you how it sounds if that would help.

[buggsson 0]

Both Fi and AA are viable options but I'm not sure I want to go in that direction.

What direction would that be, that you don't want to take? Both of these drivers have solid rep.

[RobClay 20]

i vote ss rl-p's

[akjay907 0]

What is wrong with a Havoc?

[NB50 206]

Both Fi and AA are viable options but I'm not sure I want to go in that direction.

What direction would that be, that you don't want to take? Both of these drivers have solid rep.

What is wrong with a Havoc?

Dont care for the company.

[akjay907 0]

okay...