>30mm Xmax <20Hz Fs D2 15's

[kryptonitewhite 1]

dude i dont think you know what you want it sounds like a dream woofer or something but watch out because the admids will end this thread because so far its going no where

No, all I said was I want >30mm Xmax, <20Hz Fs, and D2.... read the topic. MY topic. When people started trying to argue what I wanted, I had a little fun with it. I know the perfect driver is +/- 0dB 20Hz-20kHz, and I know the only driver that can do that is the Adire Audio FR125S modded with dB dust and coated with node/break-up dust

but aside from that, I want to play with some really cool sub-perfect 15's

jus playin... lighten up people!

[kryptonitewhite 1]

I know the difference between high BL high Sd and High Xmech SOLOX18 and a Maelstrom-X

High Sd? So just a larger diameter driver? haha.

I take it you just want something to belt out the lows between 0-40 hz or so?

Your parameters are pretty hard to find by themselves, much less together. Especially the <20 hz Fs in a car audio subwoofer with high excursion.

The Dayton Titanic is somewhat close, 20 hz Fs but only 20 mm xmax. The Audiopulse Axis is close, 22 hz and 30 mm. It's $721 on partsexpress.com. The Adire Tumult has 34 mm and 19 hz. Good luck finding one though.

now that's the answers I am looking for! Thank you kind sir!

[kryptonitewhite 1]

like how the tuning freq of a box is the loudest but it moves the least although the more you can make it move at tuning the louder it will be where a strong motor and high power handling come to play.

yes sir! close, but I think max SPL is generally 5-10Hz above tuning... at least when I model in WinISD and Bass Box Pro 6... but I won't put my life on it bro!

[dbjunior 0]

perfect 0db +/- isnt for everyone. some like just loud some like really low. you sound like what you want is a sub capable of getting really loud and low. if you build a huge ported box tuned really low most sub will do this some better than others. but you dont need huge xmax for this the low fs will help though. on top of that how low do you plan on going you cant hear below 20hz and not very much music plays below 30hz.

[fritosaregood 0]

if you want a sub that will go low and low i know the audiopulse axis will do it. ive got a box right now tuned to 22 hz. took it to a comp, despite havin some problems i didnt yet know i had, i did 140.1 db at 25 hz. with somewhere around 800 and 1000 watts. peaked at 144.1 at 41 hz

[seanbw 1]

the exodus dpl-15 has fs 19 and xmax 22 for under $150.

http://www.diycable.com/main/product_info....e08050c314aaef9

that's an xbl^2 woofer too so if low distortion linear excursion is what you're looking for i don't think it gets much cheaper...

Edited December 2, 2008 by caligreen

[kryptonitewhite 1]

if you want a sub that will go low and low i know the audiopulse axis will do it. ive got a box right now tuned to 22 hz. took it to a comp, despite havin some problems i didnt yet know i had, i did 140.1 db at 25 hz. with somewhere around 800 and 1000 watts. peaked at 144.1 at 41 hz

got vids? your setup is right up my alley man!

screw bigger numbers above 30Hz... I have SUB woofers, and to me "bottom" is 20Hz. I could care less if anyone can get 160 deebeez at 60Hz.

[kryptonitewhite 1]

the exodus dpl-15 has fs 19 and xmax 22 for under $150.

http://www.diycable.com/main/product_info....e08050c314aaef9

that's an xbl^2 woofer too so if low distortion linear excursion is what you're looking for i don't think it gets much cheaper...

I was going to put XBL^2 as a requirement in the title, but I am trying to open up to things like the RL-p as well... But yes, i do prefer XBL!

However, Re: 6.1 Ohms (Single 8 Ohm VC)

Exodus is the new Adire, which would make things totally easy, except they went thru this weird stage of 8ohm and now they arent much better at 4 ohm, and have seen the light.

Maelstrom-X D2's come out in February!

[dbjunior 0]

why you want huge numbers below 30hz idk but have you checked out thumpers build of the two icon 12's it does great numbers on those low freq's and can be built to fit any sub if you have the room.

[dbjunior 0]

not that you dont know it but higer fs subs are peaky and with the proper box the peak can be at low freq. just for the heck of it take a q18 and model it and take an old btl18 and model it the btl can handle more power and with 8 cu tuned to 20hz you can get a sweet output at 20-30hz the q18 is like 4db down at 20hz in the same box with same power. then throw 3k at it and see an 8db diffrence.

[fritosaregood 0]

if you want a sub that will go low and low i know the audiopulse axis will do it. ive got a box right now tuned to 22 hz. took it to a comp, despite havin some problems i didnt yet know i had, i did 140.1 db at 25 hz. with somewhere around 800 and 1000 watts. peaked at 144.1 at 41 hz

got vids? your setup is right up my alley man!

screw bigger numbers above 30Hz... I have SUB woofers, and to me "bottom" is 20Hz. I could care less if anyone can get 160 deebeez at 60Hz.

here is a vid from the comp i went to.

[Thumpper 266]

why you want huge numbers below 30hz idk but have you checked out thumpers build of the two icon 12's it does great numbers on those low freq's and can be built to fit any sub if you have the room.

the ICONS I used in my Video are 10" not 12".......

I bet I could get at the min another 6db in the 20hz range with a pair of 12's

with a pair of 15" ICONS a person could make themselves puke with the low notes

if done right

if you are looking for the easter bunny he doesn't exist...if you want loud lows

you have to work for it (get dirty and do some experimenting) cause your not gonna

just drop in a WONDER SUB and hit super high numbers on the low stuff

[kryptonitewhite 1]

if you want a sub that will go low and low i know the audiopulse axis will do it. ive got a box right now tuned to 22 hz. took it to a comp, despite havin some problems i didnt yet know i had, i did 140.1 db at 25 hz. with somewhere around 800 and 1000 watts. peaked at 144.1 at 41 hz

got vids? your setup is right up my alley man!

screw bigger numbers above 30Hz... I have SUB woofers, and to me "bottom" is 20Hz. I could care less if anyone can get 160 deebeez at 60Hz.

here is a vid from the comp i went to.

kick ass

what's with the 1/2 power?

got any vids of the woofer in action?

[kryptonitewhite 1]

why you want huge numbers below 30hz idk but have you checked out thumpers build of the two icon 12's it does great numbers on those low freq's and can be built to fit any sub if you have the room.

the ICONS I used in my Video are 10" not 12".......

I bet I could get at the min another 6db in the 20hz range with a pair of 12's

with a pair of 15" ICONS a person could make themselves puke with the low notes

if done right

if you are looking for the easter bunny he doesn't exist...if you want loud lows

you have to work for it (get dirty and do some experimenting) cause your not gonna

just drop in a WONDER SUB and hit super high numbers on the low stuff

kick ass vid, thats what I am talking about... I have 6 adire audio extremis 6.4's and a KX850.4 to get 50Hz on up.... I want my subs for 30Hz down

as for the tip, thanks, but i already know

[fritosaregood 0]

if you want a sub that will go low and low i know the audiopulse axis will do it. ive got a box right now tuned to 22 hz. took it to a comp, despite havin some problems i didnt yet know i had, i did 140.1 db at 25 hz. with somewhere around 800 and 1000 watts. peaked at 144.1 at 41 hz

got vids? your setup is right up my alley man!

screw bigger numbers above 30Hz... I have SUB woofers, and to me "bottom" is 20Hz. I could care less if anyone can get 160 deebeez at 60Hz.

here is a vid from the comp i went to.

kick ass

what's with the 1/2 power?

got any vids of the woofer in action?

it was actually 1/4 power, I had my eq set on my daily settings with is half power, but i has also blow one of the coils a few weeks earlier, so only one was workin.

for more vids you can just click on my profile from that vid, and there is more

[kryptonitewhite 1]

so you were 1/4 power less 1 coil?

did the coil change change your ohm load, therefor also alter your power?

[akjay907 0]

www.ascendantaudio.com

look at the havocs, they have 30mm xmax

x2

havocs are good

[fritosaregood 0]

so you were 1/4 power less 1 coil?

did the coil change change your ohm load, therefor also alter your power?

I was had the settings for half of the max rms power of the amp, but with 1 coil gone from a dual 2 ohm wired in parallel, my load went down to 2 ohms, that cut my power in half again. so i ended up runnin the amp at 1/4 the power i thought i was.