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I suffer from depression, my dad's side of the family is all depressed

[///M5 2,833]

You need to move somewhere with sun

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Me or Jmac..... cause I gots plenty lol.

[///M5 2,833]

You. The sarcasm didn't come accross in the note I guess.

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It kind-of did..... just not very strong.

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I see joo E.

[Eldorado 0]

i might need to visit elias....

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Literally or because im just the TF king and you want my position ?

[Eldorado 0]

I trying to sift through the spam

[///M5 2,833]

It takes a while.

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mm hmmp

[Eldorado 0]

later sean, time for works

[///M5 2,833]

Booo, I am sitting at my desk waitin for 3 more minutes for a conference call. Conference calls = teh svck.

Have fun at work.

[Beat_Dominator 2]

Conference calls are boring.

[JimJ 11]

Frosticleas... I need to ask you something.....

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Yo...

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[JimJ 11]

I suffer from depression, my dad's side of the family is all depressed

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[JimJ 11]

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[Beat_Dominator 2]

Whats that tube-lovers site with all the connectors and crap?

[JimJ 11]

http://www.partsconnexion.com/

[///M5 2,833]

Done with the forecast review conf. call, thank god!

Does partsconnexion have a printed catalog? --boo just noticed it is $5.

[///M5 2,833]

Well I searched the net and can find nothing *bored obviously* comparing a normal mic with the TL. I have read the Termlab benefits and quite frankly don't agree with them. Their slamming of mics leaves out one important piece of information, the word measurement. A good measurement mic will NOT drift over time, with humidity, with large SPL swings and such. The mic that I use with my spectrum analyzer will stay within .1dB in all of those instances.

That and it looks like the TL is a pressure sensor which are typically 1% of FS accuracy, which is no where near a good mic. Do you guys know of any links comparing the two technologies that support the TL? The only TL benefit I see is cost.

[jntar 15]

Well I searched the net and can find nothing *bored obviously* comparing a normal mic with the TL.

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Depending on your definition of a "diaphragm" measurement mics don't really have one. Basically a hermetic welded membrane that acts as a capacitor.

I hadn't actually thought about ever using a TL since I have a full blown spectrum analyzer, but am just curious as to why it is being used in competitions when a mike is a much better more repeatable device, albeit a lot more expensive but nonetheless.

I do realize that above 180dB you have to switch from a mic to a hydrophone (~$6k) but again it is then a real direct measurement instead of some applied thing.

The TL site isn't very helpful at unveiling what they are doing and I keep seeing scores from TL measurements and am just wondering what they equate to.

[jntar 15]

Depending on your definition of a "diaphragm" measurement mics don't really have one.  Basically a hermetic welded membrane that acts as a capacitor. 

I hadn't actually thought about ever using a TL since I have a full blown spectrum analyzer, but am just curious as to why it is being used in competitions when a mike is a much better more repeatable device, albeit a lot more expensive but nonetheless.

I do realize that above 180dB you have to switch from a mic to a hydrophone (~$6k) but again it is then a real direct measurement instead of some applied thing. 

The TL site isn't very helpful at unveiling what they are doing and I keep seeing scores from TL measurements and am just wondering what they equate to.

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I know you say that the mic is a more repetitive devise, but I have seen 100's of times where it isnt in SPL. Most of the AC mics (180 and down) werent accurate, they would give you different numbers every time. With the TL it will average the 3 loudest notes and 99% of the time you will get the same score if all things are the same (voltage, amperage, blah, blah....)

Plus I have seen people go from 1 AC mic hitting a 150 lets say, then switch to another and hit 155...With the TL they are all calibrated to the exact same specs per instical. This keeps the numbers very consecutive.

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In that range a standard measurement mic will be repeatable to within .1dB; AC's are not that great though. I check my mics calibration at least once a year and over the past 5 years it hasn't drifted .05dB even.