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[MKader17 332]

It's going to be cold but with a good bag you shouldn't have problems.

I wouldn't venture out in the mountains over here during winter. Heavy snow-fall = certain death if you are inexperienced.

Lately it's been getting down to 32ish at home, so I'll try it out beforehand. Curious to find out if their rating is comfortable or survival.

Check REI. My 25*C is rated comfortable from 20-40 and some form of the verbage "cutting it close" between 10 and 20

[///M5 2,833]

I too sleep in an REI branded bag. REI tent as well. Absolutely no complaints.

[///M5 2,833]

we've got a foot of snow and my snowmobile is hanging from the rafters in the garage.

[nem 2,019]

Wish we had snow instead of all this rain.

[MKader17 332]

I actually have North Face, Cat's Meow

[ssh 924]

I bought some cheap bag. I'll probably regret it when I'm out there.

On the flip side it is way warmer than my old sleeping bag, and I've used the old sleeping bag + sheets + big tent in cold weather and managed, so hopefully the mummy bag + sheets + small tent + next to campfire will suffice. If not I'll probably be on the local news next week.

[ssh 924]

Ordered the liner!

[ssh 924]

Oh and it's suppose to rain on thur and fri, fri has a low of 27, so on the mountain there may be snow!

[ssh 924]

Which would mean a bitch of a time trying to get a fire going. Perhaps a small bottle of gas, or can of starting fluid.

<- Best eagle scout ever!

[Tirefryr 1,742]

Which would mean a bitch of a time trying to get a fire going. Perhaps a small bottle of gas, or can of starting fluid.

<- Best eagle scout ever!

We always used dryer lint for the Klondike Derby. I always keep a large ziplock bag just in case.

[ssh 924]

Which would mean a bitch of a time trying to get a fire going. Perhaps a small bottle of gas, or can of starting fluid.

<- Best eagle scout ever!

We always used dryer lint for the Klondike Derby. I always keep a large ziplock bag just in case.

I'm sure that would lite up well, but I'm worried the wood may be partially wet. When I camped in Colorado all the wood was moist, and the only way to get it going was dumping gas on it.

[dem beats 1,223]

I used to have this give away "sub zero" bag. I was solid down to -10. I was just a kid, never tried colder.

My mom got it free with Marlboro miles I think. It was a POS but I am a human heater. On the road trip back from fla I slept at a truck stop in the back of a uhaul. It was -3 in fucking Texas. All I had were 3-4 ot those furtniture blankets and my buddies mattress.

That night I was actually cold.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

I love my Kershaws. I use my Scallion at work constantly. It is not a show or toy knife, it is a work horse. It is out of my pocket at least a dozen times a day. It is used to open packages, cut cardboard, strip wire, cut wire, cut hose. I use it without consideration for it's appearance or a need to prevent it from breaking. I use it really hard.

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What would I change? It does not hold a good edge. I am constantly sharpening it. It takes a serious edge very quickly, so I am happy about that. 3 or 4 swipes across my stone and you can shave with it, but it does not hold that edge long. The action needs to be kept clean, and you had best use a great thin lube. I use Wurth Maintenance Spray. It is thin, adheres well, and does not attract dirt and grime.

The Scallion uses a low carbon alloy so it won't hold an edge for long. Blades that really hold an edge utilize high carbon alloys, such as the Leek Adrian posted which is made with Sandvik 14C28N. ATS-34, S30V, S60V, S90V, VG10, BG-42, and 154-CM are other high carbon stainless alloys that really hold an edge even under serious abuse.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

But, if you're planning on going batshit crazy with the damned thing skip stainless altogether and go with something like L-6 or 5160.

[Godsmack 361]

I used to have this give away "sub zero" bag. I was solid down to -10. I was just a kid, never tried colder.

My mom got it free with Marlboro miles I think. It was a POS but I am a human heater. On the road trip back from fla I slept at a truck stop in the back of a uhaul. It was -3 in fucking Texas. All I had were 3-4 ot those furtniture blankets and my buddies mattress.

That night I was actually cold.

This is why I love having military gear. Yes 99,98% of the time it is made by the lowest cost manufacturer, but the cold weather shit they got right.

J

[Julian 641]

I used to have this give away "sub zero" bag. I was solid down to -10. I was just a kid, never tried colder.

My mom got it free with Marlboro miles I think. It was a POS but I am a human heater. On the road trip back from fla I slept at a truck stop in the back of a uhaul. It was -3 in fucking Texas. All I had were 3-4 ot those furtniture blankets and my buddies mattress.

That night I was actually cold.

This is why I love having military gear. Yes 99,98% of the time it is made by the lowest cost manufacturer, but the cold weather shit they got right.

J

When I flew over for my deployment I slept in our Boom pod, it's unheated so it's like -15 degrees in there.. I had my big as sleeping bag that is good for -20 and I was as warm as could be..

[Godsmack 361]

I used to have this give away "sub zero" bag. I was solid down to -10. I was just a kid, never tried colder.

My mom got it free with Marlboro miles I think. It was a POS but I am a human heater. On the road trip back from fla I slept at a truck stop in the back of a uhaul. It was -3 in fucking Texas. All I had were 3-4 ot those furtniture blankets and my buddies mattress.

That night I was actually cold.

This is why I love having military gear. Yes 99,98% of the time it is made by the lowest cost manufacturer, but the cold weather shit they got right.

J

When I flew over for my deployment I slept in our Boom pod, it's unheated so it's like -15 degrees in there.. I had my big as sleeping bag that is good for -20 and I was as warm as could be..

Sounds about right. I know I've only once been COLD while sleeping in the field and that's when the heater went out and I have none of my 'cold weather' layers. Nobody to blame but me.

J

[Julian 641]

I used to have this give away "sub zero" bag. I was solid down to -10. I was just a kid, never tried colder.

My mom got it free with Marlboro miles I think. It was a POS but I am a human heater. On the road trip back from fla I slept at a truck stop in the back of a uhaul. It was -3 in fucking Texas. All I had were 3-4 ot those furtniture blankets and my buddies mattress.

That night I was actually cold.

This is why I love having military gear. Yes 99,98% of the time it is made by the lowest cost manufacturer, but the cold weather shit they got right.

J

When I flew over for my deployment I slept in our Boom pod, it's unheated so it's like -15 degrees in there.. I had my big as sleeping bag that is good for -20 and I was as warm as could be..

Sounds about right. I know I've only once been COLD while sleeping in the field and that's when the heater went out and I have none of my 'cold weather' layers. Nobody to blame but me.

J

It's been "Chilly" here lately, It was around 110 when I first got here now it's getting a cold as 60 degrees.

[dem beats 1,223]

But, if you're planning on going batshit crazy with the damned thing skip stainless altogether and go with something like L-6 or 5160.

L-6 is some sturdy shit. Corrosion becomes an issues however. I'm not familiar with good ways to keep working knives corrosion free. My Japanese kitchen knives use steel from a company called PowderMetal I think. One is "blue" and the other is "white". I think the Shun top knives use similar metal but then sandwich it with stainless. In those I keep them oiled like crazy. But one time I must not have completely covered one of them. It has the smallest patch of corrosion. Made me furious.

I think that if you handle these steels right you can get them to patina and not worry so much about rust.The edge is a differrnt story though. The other option would be to ceracoat it. I worry about sharpening something with ceracoat ruining my stones however.

[///M5 2,833]

I bought some cheap bag. I'll probably regret it when I'm out there.

On the flip side it is way warmer than my old sleeping bag, and I've used the old sleeping bag + sheets + big tent in cold weather and managed, so hopefully the mummy bag + sheets + small tent + next to campfire will suffice. If not I'll probably be on the local news next week.

Cheap bag ratings are highly inflated.

Personally I'll never buy another non-down bag again. Staying warm even when wet is huge.

Oh, btw. Most bags that aren't conservatively rated EXPECT that you will be on a thermarest which make a monstrous difference.

*haven't camped in the mountains in the winter, but the first fishing trip of the year I take up North usually involves breaking some ice on small lakes and regularly we've had the "luck" of getting temps in the teens at night.

[///M5 2,833]

Which would mean a bitch of a time trying to get a fire going. Perhaps a small bottle of gas, or can of starting fluid.

<- Best eagle scout ever!

Snow isn't a big deal for fire starting. Even rain isn't so bad if you know how to look around for tinder.

[///M5 2,833]

But, if you're planning on going batshit crazy with the damned thing skip stainless altogether and go with something like L-6 or 5160.

L-6 is some sturdy shit. Corrosion becomes an issues however. I'm not familiar with good ways to keep working knives corrosion free. My Japanese kitchen knives use steel from a company called PowderMetal I think. One is "blue" and the other is "white". I think the Shun top knives use similar metal but then sandwich it with stainless. In those I keep them oiled like crazy. But one time I must not have completely covered one of them. It has the smallest patch of corrosion. Made me furious.

I think that if you handle these steels right you can get them to patina and not worry so much about rust.The edge is a differrnt story though. The other option would be to ceracoat it. I worry about sharpening something with ceracoat ruining my stones however.

They sell little scouring pads to clean the rust off and restore the knife.

[dem beats 1,223]

At kitchen window Sean?

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

RIP Ravi Shankar

[Penguin4x4 1,761]