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[S.DeYoung 968]

By the way, glad everything is going good for you Jared.

[j-roadtatts 1,129]

My daughter traded her 2006 Subby Outback for a 2002 Lexus RX300. So now she is begging me for a subwoofa. I am thinking a Dcon 15" will fit the bill nicely. Need to figure out how to interface with the factory stereo is the only thing that blows.

I have a 15" DCON available at a great price in the classifieds.

Your ad is what got me thinking she would be getting a 15". LOL Might as well do it right the first time. I just need to figure out how to get the signal from the factory deck and was going to hit you up. I am doing the research as we speak. You will probably be hearing from me.

[ssh 924]

That is a red herring. Your argument stated that because you and some others have gleaned results that it is a viable option. I summized to that why not try the more proven and solid methods that have yielded many more people with amazing result stories. We don't hear aboutnit because it isn't a magic bullet. It's hard fucking work and consistent feeding. It's so fucking simple there isn't a trick to it, so it isn't interesting. Eat whole real foods frequently, work out hard as fuck. Nuance has helped us to make minor changes like sugars and aminos after a hard work out..... but it is all the same.

Even if we say that the "results" makes both methods even, my point is still that you haven't given a more "standard" aproach a serious try. It is the lynchpin of my whole statement. The answer is already in the culture of humanity.

If this method of diet is convenient, or what you enjoy, then go for it. Hell even if you just want to be unorthodox for the sake of "the road less traveled" go nuts. That is a solid argument. But arguing that it is more or less successful is moot. And not JUST because the majority doesn't believe in it, but because YOU habe no control test in your own history with which to compare it too. I am not arguing for or against IF or your diet, my argument is more that you do not have a reference point or solid reason as to why you would choose the more difficult path.

Well I basically took root in two base camps:

1) Eating whole foods and not being scared of eating fat. Also limited what type of grains I ate.

2) LeanGains protocol of fasting for 16hours, and having an 8hr window to workout, and eat all my kcal.

Originally with my schedule LG was no problem. I could fast for 16 hours. Take some bcaa, do my workout, and eat enough kcal in the window.

Then school started and my schedule fucked things up because instead of fasting for 16hours, I'd have to fast for 20hours, and then I'd have a pretty limited time frame to eat all my food.

So the "advantages" were no longer advantageous, so it didn't make sense to continue with it. It was never listed as some end all approach, just another method that seemed to work.

So now with the new class schedule, I typically eat something light in the morning on my off days (glass of whole milk, sardines, smoked salmon, tuna). Get home at 1pm, and pig out. On workout days I get up a little early, drink some water, eat some grapes or berries, and take my bcaa. Do my workout. Eat some carbs. Go to class, get home at 5, and pig out.

So really I don't see much difference with what I'm doing, and what conventional people do aside from different nutrient sources.

[ssh 924]

I wasn't using that as no motherfucking red herring yo!

You just said your method worked for people, and I was simply stating the same. That's why I generally don't even bother with anything anecdotal.

[ssh 924]

If I wanted to throw someone off I'd just post a picture:

[ssh 924]

Of titties, and everyone be like wtf we talking 'bout? *scratches head*

[Tirefryr 1,742]

Good day gentlemen.

Shit settled down yet?

Everything is going smooth. Life is good. I can't blame my W for defusing the situation, I was pretty yoked on Crown. So now on Probation, doing outpateint treatment, DV classes and UA's. The costs are eating my lunch. The worst part is I can't smoke herb, even with a card. I can grow, buy, sell and transport, but not smoke. go figure.

I switched my work hours back to 8hrs a day this week, instead of the 10hrs i've been pulling for the last year and a half. Should help my stress alittle. I usaully have a side job or two going also so still busy as fuck.

How's life treating you Ryan?

Could be better, could be worse. Can't really complain I guess. As long as I am still waking up every morning, we'll call it good.

Hope everything works out for you.

[j-roadtatts 1,129]

Good day gentlemen.

Shit settled down yet?

Everything is going smooth. Life is good. I can't blame my W for defusing the situation, I was pretty yoked on Crown. So now on Probation, doing outpateint treatment, DV classes and UA's. The costs are eating my lunch. The worst part is I can't smoke herb, even with a card. I can grow, buy, sell and transport, but not smoke. go figure.

I switched my work hours back to 8hrs a day this week, instead of the 10hrs i've been pulling for the last year and a half. Should help my stress alittle. I usaully have a side job or two going also so still busy as fuck.

How's life treating you Ryan?

Could be better, could be worse. Can't really complain I guess. As long as I am still waking up every morning, we'll call it good.

Hope everything works out for you.

It worked out once, but I worked it back in.

I am a strong willed MF'er so I have no worries.

[dem beats 1,223]

A lot of the controversy comes from you mentioning low carb stefan. In honesty when yoh said you get 20% of you fuel from carbs it really changes the perspective of how you are choosing to eat. Also the IF method was kind of put out there by you to be a superior method in how you defended it previously. I think that probably illicited more odd response than anything.

Realize that low carb usually means in the sub 10% realm and more often than not less than 15 grams of carbs a day. So you are much more typical than would have previously been thought. Your choice on now grains is a non issue to me. Like it or don't, meh. Potatoes are poisonous if you don't cook them enough and canned food has less nutritional value than fresh. Like we talked about earlier, broad general thinking is much more effective at garnering results than nuance. So if you get your whole foods without grains, epic. It makes no difference in my mind.

From a nutritional standpoint you are fairly ballanced. I feel you are correct in saying that we shouldnt be afraid of fat. And also thay eating whole foods is a good idea.

Also note that I still stand by the fact that I never argued that your methods didn't get results. I really never implied that it was wrong or you were wrong. I only said that we cannot know what is better for you without a control and an exparament.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Got them dcons for $100 plus a nice box (me lazy fucker) that fits the cargo area well, and an extra amp.

Today is a good day.

Pix foo!!

[j-roadtatts 1,129]

Highlight of the day... Get to hook up a Denon 7.1 for my brother in law!!

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Tonight for me is tomorrow night for you guys.

That makes your brain fold for a moment.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I live in Louisiana I can't go with out fried catfish and redbeans and rice.

Making me hungry.

[ssh 924]

A lot of the controversy comes from you mentioning low carb stefan. In honesty when yoh said you get 20% of you fuel from carbs it really changes the perspective of how you are choosing to eat. Also the IF method was kind of put out there by you to be a superior method in how you defended it previously. I think that probably illicited more odd response than anything.

Realize that low carb usually means in the sub 10% realm and more often than not less than 15 grams of carbs a day. So you are much more typical than would have previously been thought. Your choice on now grains is a non issue to me. Like it or don't, meh. Potatoes are poisonous if you don't cook them enough and canned food has less nutritional value than fresh. Like we talked about earlier, broad general thinking is much more effective at garnering results than nuance. So if you get your whole foods without grains, epic. It makes no difference in my mind.

From a nutritional standpoint you are fairly ballanced. I feel you are correct in saying that we shouldnt be afraid of fat. And also thay eating whole foods is a good idea.

Also note that I still stand by the fact that I never argued that your methods didn't get results. I really never implied that it was wrong or you were wrong. I only said that we cannot know what is better for you without a control and an exparament.

Well I've def read mixed things on what people gauge low carb as, but I'm defnitely well above that. Lowest carb I've done was still probably 70g back when I didn't drink a ton of milk.

[ssh 924]

Got them dcons for $100 plus a nice box (me lazy fucker) that fits the cargo area well, and an extra amp.

Today is a good day.

Pix foo!!

I took a pic yesterday, but my phone didn't save it. I'll take another in a bit.

[///M5 2,833]

1) Eating whole foods and not being scared of eating fat. Also limited what type of grains I ate.

So now with the new class schedule, I typically eat something light in the morning on my off days (glass of whole milk, sardines, smoked salmon, tuna). Get home at 1pm, and pig out. On workout days I get up a little early, drink some water, eat some grapes or berries, and take my bcaa. Do my workout. Eat some carbs. Go to class, get home at 5, and pig out.

So really I don't see much difference with what I'm doing, and what conventional people do aside from different nutrient sources.

Whole foods and shit in a can aren't really on the same page there...

[ssh 924]

[ssh 924]

1) Eating whole foods and not being scared of eating fat. Also limited what type of grains I ate.

So now with the new class schedule, I typically eat something light in the morning on my off days (glass of whole milk, sardines, smoked salmon, tuna). Get home at 1pm, and pig out. On workout days I get up a little early, drink some water, eat some grapes or berries, and take my bcaa. Do my workout. Eat some carbs. Go to class, get home at 5, and pig out.

So really I don't see much difference with what I'm doing, and what conventional people do aside from different nutrient sources.

Whole foods and shit in a can aren't really on the same page there...

Well canned sardines and tuna aren't my entire diet, and I'm sure they're healthier than fritos.

[///M5 2,833]

Aargh. Fucking EBC.

Red pads for the front = fine. For the rear, in their catalog but NEVER made.

Now my choices are:

Centric OE Metallic, Bendix Ceramic Rear ($37 so wtf?), AC Delco DuraStop, Jurid for $64, Delphi for $50

And then do I match or grab the reds for the front and either the Jurid or Bendix for the rear.

WTF?

I know

I am pissed and confused. Never once thought about mixing brake pad types, but I guess it isn't like they are matching rotors. lol

Mix the pads.

Pad cocktail, rofl.

Order reds and some Bendix ceramics. Amazon with free shipping ftw.

[///M5 2,833]

1) Eating whole foods and not being scared of eating fat. Also limited what type of grains I ate.

So now with the new class schedule, I typically eat something light in the morning on my off days (glass of whole milk, sardines, smoked salmon, tuna). Get home at 1pm, and pig out. On workout days I get up a little early, drink some water, eat some grapes or berries, and take my bcaa. Do my workout. Eat some carbs. Go to class, get home at 5, and pig out.

So really I don't see much difference with what I'm doing, and what conventional people do aside from different nutrient sources.

Whole foods and shit in a can aren't really on the same page there...

Well canned sardines and tuna aren't my entire diet, and I'm sure they're healthier than fritos.

Would you eat canned beef?

And yes, I agree they are better than fritos. Thank god for mini-bags, lol

[///M5 2,833]

My complete diet is fritos

[ssh 924]

Can't you light them on fire too?

[MKader17 332]

Stefan, you got that all for $100???

[ssh 924]

Stefan, you got that all for $100???

120 actually.

Box, Dcons, and some stealth series soundstream amp.

[dem beats 1,223]

My complete diet is fritos

I got a bag of shrimp chips from united noodle just now. Mmmmmmm.