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[///M5 2,833]

In fairness, you also have to consider how Mitt's policies would have affected things over the same conditions. For example (off the top of my head), under Mitt GM would have went belly up. Under Obama, they survived the decline and IIRC actually did pretty well this year.

And we and GM would be better off. It would have instantly allowed the makers to adjust the thing that is by definition there largest problem. I was hoping so much they'd let him fail. That will go down as one of the worst decisions in history.

I tend to focus as much or more on public policy issues as I do economic.

That's fucking scary. Social issues should be voted on, economic decided by those with the right focus. Obama's is terrible.

That's the main reason I can't envision supporting Romney. On top of everything else; he's Mormon. Being an atheist I'm obviously not a fan of religion, but IMO it takes a special sort of crazy to believe in Mormonism. And I generally disagree with the public policy decisions Rep's make as a result of their faith to start with, much less having an excessively crazy variety of Rep in office.

I seriously wish that there was a better separation of religion and state.

AND A MAJOR FACT. We've just had back to back the two worst Presidents in history.

[///M5 2,833]

Mitt is a fucking idiot on social issues. But you know what? Social issues just plain don't matter when there are bigger more serious fish to fry.

Fuck healthcare, we need health reform, not health care reform. The government needs to push less into the workings of private businesses. It is only a hindrance. A company CEO or owner has pride in his god damn job. A public inspector, FDA, or any other group are set up to fail and be purchased. Like the government who cut corners in china to build schools we will have the same problems.

This isn't some new political theory, or democratic, liberal, conservative, or republican idea. The simple fact is when a people work more for the government the they do for themselves shit is backwards. Today we are under more rules and restrictions than ever and it is idiotic.

Exactly.

[///M5 2,833]

Think of the most inefficient things you've ever seen. And yes, my expectation is that they will all come back as government operated.

[topgun 262]

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That was the dumbest crap ever.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I am just going to become a foreigner and live in the islands.

We are retiring outside of the US. Our investments have provided us with the money we need to get the hell out of dodge. It is Italy, for us. The Tuscan countryside offers nice low cost living, a beautiful setting, and a slow pace that makes me smile...

And the Italian women are beautiful, and not much is as sexy as hearing them speak Italian or broken English

First thing that came to my mind:

[///M5 2,833]

Thought maybe Sean would like this:

I should have snuck some in on the Jazz memory card.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

So how is this confusing?

My bad, I did stop at the section that said the US voted against the arms treaty.

No, I am not a fan of Mitt. But how anyone can honestly believe that what Obama has done is worth a second chance is bewildering to me.

In fairness, you also have to consider how Mitt's policies would have affected things over the same conditions. For example (off the top of my head), under Mitt GM would have went belly up. Under Obama, they survived the decline and IIRC actually did pretty well this year.

Again, I'll simply point out that disliking how Obama has handled things doesn't inherently make Mitt a better option. Just because Obama hasn't been stellar doesn't mean Mitt would have been or will be better. Of course, if your a Republican then you're going to argue that it will be better, if you're a Democrat you're going to argue that it'll be worse.

I tend to focus as much or more on public policy issues as I do economic. That's the main reason I can't envision supporting Romney. On top of everything else; he's Mormon. Being an atheist I'm obviously not a fan of religion, but IMO it takes a special sort of crazy to believe in Mormonism. And I generally disagree with the public policy decisions Rep's make as a result of their faith to start with, much less having an excessively crazy variety of Rep in office.

Highlighted for agreement.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

OK lifting junkies. I have been lifting for a couple months again, and seeing great results. Not my first time to this rodeo, I have been lifting on and off longer than most CA enthusiasts have been alive. I am doing a 2 day 5X5 (day 1; squat, bench, 45 degree rows/ day 3; squat, military, 45 degree rows) to failure with 3X8s each workout day of inverted forearm curls, and a 3X5/1X3/1X8-12 on day 5 (Squat, Bench, 45 degree rows) and a 3X8-12 of inverted forearms, and forearm curls. I also do 6 days of planks, 3 times a day, 2 reps. I have to be careful with core workouts because of all my abdominal surgeries from the cancer, which is why my ab work is so skinny. I have cut my rest times to ~2 minutes, and my workout times I keep between 25 and 40 minutes.

During the day I eat tuna and eggs for breakfast, at lunch I usually have a PBJ (have to get some carbs in) and for dinner I load with proteins (meats) and occasionally starches, but that is only 3 times a week. I ingest no sugars, aside from my PBJ and my daily intake of bourbon. Yes, ketosis is part of the goal. I drink a gallon of water a day, minimum, and 2-3 cups of black coffee. After workout I am downing 104 grams of whey. My daily caloric intake is roughly 17oo calories, and my current weight is 205# (down from 225) and I am 6'1". I think I will be comfortable around 200#, and I am targeting anywhere from 200 and 210 as long as I stay in good shape. I don't want to be bony, and I don't want too much bulk anymore.

I have always been a bulker, I just cannot cut well. So I decided to cut my caloric intake (typically I intake 3-4500 calories a day when lifting for mass) and have more explosive, fast paced workouts. I am definitely losing weight and starting to show more than usual, but I feel like I need to add an intra-workout supplement. I am used to bulking fast, and I know it is because of my big caloric intake, but I feel there is something I can add to help, and the 32Oz of water I drink during my workout seems like it is lacking something.

What would you lifters suggest?

Are you fatiguing mid-workout? Are you taking anything pre-work out, or did you say that before and I missed it?

[Tirefryr 1,742]

I am just going to become a foreigner and live in the islands.

We are retiring outside of the US. Our investments have provided us with the money we need to get the hell out of dodge. It is Italy, for us. The Tuscan countryside offers nice low cost living, a beautiful setting, and a slow pace that makes me smile...

And the Italian women are beautiful, and not much is as sexy as hearing them speak Italian or broken English

First thing that came to my mind:

I love that commercial. Too bad she's not Italian.

[topgun 262]

I won't kick her out of bed for that.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

'Cause he's da friggin' Pope!

I listen to this guy:

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I am just going to become a foreigner and live in the islands.

We are retiring outside of the US. Our investments have provided us with the money we need to get the hell out of dodge. It is Italy, for us. The Tuscan countryside offers nice low cost living, a beautiful setting, and a slow pace that makes me smile...

And the Italian women are beautiful, and not much is as sexy as hearing them speak Italian or broken English

First thing that came to my mind:

I love that commercial. Too bad she's not Italian.

Shh, don't ruin his fantasy.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Might help with parkour(sp)

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

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...(1)Uut, (2)Fl, (3)Uup, (4)Lv, (5)Uus, (6)Uuo

Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, B, A, select, start

Baddabing!

[Tirefryr 1,742]

I thought it was A,B,A,B

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I thought it was A,B,A,B

[topgun 262]

That was awesome.

[ssh 924]

When you say you need some intra-workout supplement, do you feel like your lacking some energy for your workouts because the lower daily intake? If so, you could try adding branched chain amino acids to your water. I mix 5g of bcaa with a little bit of flavored protein (I add the protein mainly to lessen the bitter taste from bcaa) with water. I drink half 10 minutes before workout, and sip the rest throughout.

Looking for quicker recovery rates at heavier lifts. But BCCA seems to be the typical call

Nothing wrong in using what actually works. If your not taking creatine you might also try that. I've read where people started taking it for a few weeks, and were able to pull out a few more reps across their workout then before. I would try the bcaa first as I think it's more direct to what your asking about.

[ssh 924]

Thought maybe Sean would like this:

I should have snuck some in on the Jazz memory card.

Pretty much all I listened to going up to flag.

[///M5 2,833]

Everyday, Kevin's idiocy flabbergasts me. He should open a business with Randal, that'd be a hoot.

[OuTLaWeD 110]

I thought it was A,B,A,B

don't forget to press "select, start" after that sequence now it has me thinking, does anybody remember that cheat code? up, Down, up, down, L, R, L, R, a, b, a, b, select, start?

[dem beats 1,223]

Oooooooooh. Goal is one armed chins. You want to know fastest way to geth there.

When you start the work out, do assisted first until you are worn out, then move to weighted ones.

My gym has a machine that you kneel on and it provides assistance. I think that would be ideal as you could use consistent steps in getting to your goal.

I think one arm chins etc are a bit silly, but the do make you look kinda cool. Especially if you are a muscular person. If you are mega skinny it isn't as bro-cool and makes even less sense to me.

Generally I don't have goals like that-other then gymnastic progressions, but thought it would be fun to train for it.

Not sure what you mean by looking cool if your muscular, but not if your skinny. Either way it requires a lot of strength, strength relative to one's body-weight.

Looks cool if you are fat too. :-)

Strength in relation to weight is an exponential curve. The difficulty of doing any given exercize where one moves their body through space and not resistance through space becomes harder and a greater than linear rate. So a 120 pound human has a particular distrobution of tissue. Even if that individual gains only muscle at 200 pounds the particular exercize becomes much much much more difficult.

[dem beats 1,223]

When you say you need some intra-workout supplement, do you feel like your lacking some energy for your workouts because the lower daily intake? If so, you could try adding branched chain amino acids to your water. I mix 5g of bcaa with a little bit of flavored protein (I add the protein mainly to lessen the bitter taste from bcaa) with water. I drink half 10 minutes before workout, and sip the rest throughout.

Looking for quicker recovery rates at heavier lifts. But BCCA seems to be the typical call

Sandt. If you are open to suggestion I would try a couple things.

The first would to work out with a split program. As in arms one day, chest one day, legs another day, and back one day. I always recomend pyramids. 2 warm up, then your heaviest lift, then 2 more sets decending. I always recommend going to failure. I do about 10 different lifts per muscle group.

If that doesn't pass muster for you, doing 10x10 split work outs is a nightmare. Keep the time between sets to under 10 seconds. You use a "moderate" weight. By the 8th set it is brutal. The pumps can be insane. There is also a possibility that repetitious work outs with no breaks, up for 60 min or so can drastie increase GH levels over more "casual" heavy lifting techniques.

As for the durring work out drinks we know that carbs or fats will stop a GH pulse. So using a carb drink durring might inhibit the fat loss goals. BCAA drinks are great. I dont mix with protein, but that might be fine. A calorie free crystal light is a GREAT option to mask the flavor if you have to.

Honestly, I just don't have the time for longer/more frequent workouts. I do a lot of side work and spend a lot of time in schools and training and even getting in 3 a week workouts is difficult if not impossible. This week I had to push my monday to Sunday because of schools Monday and Tuesday, and I am hoping my side job Wednesday will afford me time in the evening to lift before bed.

Somhow I thought I read you were training 5 times a week. 3 is much most simple. Have chest one day legs the next and back the last day.

[OuTLaWeD 110]

love the vid at 1:44

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I thought it was A,B,A,B

don't forget to press "select, start" after that sequence now it has me thinking, does anybody remember that cheat code? up, Down, up, down, L, R, L, R, a, b, a, b, select, start?

I posted it earlier this morning.