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if i decide to keep my truck, I need to get back to work on my doors ...

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I wish I could hear your truck!

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I wish I could hear your truck!

Thanks bro ... I will be at the USACI World Finals Event in Shreveport, La ...

Hope to see you and the SSA World there ... :fing34:

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Has anyone else seen kickpanels/pods done with fabric coated in resin and body filler, but no fiberglass mat?

Why no mat ? It's simple to add and it's what provides the strength.

I've always used mat, just wasn't sure why I was finding all these videos of people using mat on door panels but not kick panels, made no sense, thought I'd ask.

The fabric was a bitch, tons of wrinkles, but enough fiberglass mat toned it down, sanded like hell, and used slightly more bondo then normal. Still has a lot of inperfections but I'm going to layer the inside with clay tomorrow and install. If it sounds good I'll be taking them back out for more sanding. Probably add some more resin in the inside in case I missed anywhere, like the white wrinkled spot :roflmao:

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If you had wrinkles, you didn't have the fabric stretched tight enough.

There is a key to body filler. You want to sand the high spots off during the "green" stage. This is the stage right where it starts to harden up. Get yourself a body rasp or some 36 grit sandpaper or the like and go to town when it's in this stage and you'll cut your sanding time in half. I can give you a ton of tips, I grew up in a body shop.

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Has anyone else seen kickpanels/pods done with fabric coated in resin and body filler, but no fiberglass mat?

Why no mat ? It's simple to add and it's what provides the strength.

I've always used mat, just wasn't sure why I was finding all these videos of people using mat on door panels but not kick panels, made no sense, thought I'd ask.

The fabric was a bitch, tons of wrinkles, but enough fiberglass mat toned it down, sanded like hell, and used slightly more bondo then normal. Still has a lot of inperfections but I'm going to layer the inside with clay tomorrow and install. If it sounds good I'll be taking them back out for more sanding. Probably add some more resin in the inside in case I missed anywhere, like the white wrinkled spot :roflmao:

okay.jpg

:trippy:

If you had wrinkles, you didn't have the fabric stretched tight enough.

There is a key to body filler. You want to sand the high spots off during the "green" stage. This is the stage right where it starts to harden up. Get yourself a body rasp or some 36 grit sandpaper or the like and go to town when it's in this stage and you'll cut your sanding time in half. I can give you a ton of tips, I grew up in a body shop.

Two problems with the wrapping the fabric in this situation, at least for me.

Everything was hot glued and dowel'd together so it was fairly strong but I wouldn't go crazy on yanking the fabric or I'd start breaking the dowels, perhaps some larger and or more dowels would help.

But mainly, I'm not even sure if it would be considered a wrinkle, but I'd stretch the fabric over nice and tight, move over to the next side and keep going, then towards the end (last section that needs to be pulled), I'd have some excess and no matter how hard you pull back it would have a fold in the fabric. I would try going around again and spread out the excess fabric but then instead of one big fold, I'd end up with several smaller folds.

I could cut the fold then wrap one side over the other, making a nice flush surface, but I've never seen anyone else run into this problem :P

I made this the other day:

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No folds, no issues, I'm guessing because the baffle was larger, not circular, and because the fabric was only being pulled back a few inches before it was glued down.

I actually did use a rasp when it began to harden, sanded down for a bit, then laid a little more filler over some big spots, then did my final sanding. I probably should have continued adding filler to all the small imperfections at that point and sanded again. For the last week I've been glassing from 6am to 6pm just trying to get better, I should have been more patient towards the end heh.

Would you say the rage gold is the way to go? Any other thoughts or tips would be appreciated. :)

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Would you say the rage gold is the way to go? Any other thoughts or tips would be appreciated. :)

I love Rage Gold. I have used it for quite some time. You can also skip a final sand and use a good filler primer like Slick Sand from ever coat. Another trick is to take equal parts filler and resin, mix thoroughly, add your MEKP, then you can brush on the filler and it will self level. You can also pour it on as well, but this may cause air bubbles.

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Would you say the rage gold is the way to go? Any other thoughts or tips would being appreciated. :)

I love Rage Gold. I have used it for quite some time. You can also skip a final sand and use a good filler primer like Slick Sand from ever coat. Another trick is to take equal parts filler and resin, mix thoroughly, add your MEKP, then you can brush on the filler and it will self level. You can also pour it on as well, but this may cause air bubbles.

Ill be ordering some rage gold and slick sand then. Have you used the us composites resin before? If so was it the general purpose or 435(sp?)

Ill try the resin and filler mix later today.

Have to change my front dirtbike tire first, so fun.

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Keystone.................cheap ass beer at its finest.

J

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Keystone is nothing more than stale water.

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I was at my neighbors house for a welcome to the neighborhood kind of thing, bunch of old folk, one kept spewing "keystone nectar of the gods!" I had to tell him I'm eighteen and don't even drink that, what the fuck is wrong with you :)

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Its a decent brew. Not close to great or anything. Its just being judged on its price against other beers in that range.

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I was at my neighbors house for a welcome to the neighborhood kind of thing, bunch of old folk, one kept spewing "keystone nectar of the gods!" I had to tell him I'm eighteen and don't even drink that, what the fuck is wrong with you :)

Some people are just like that. My father, for instance, is as pleased with ground beef and onions or fried bologna as he is with a Prime steak.

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STILLWATER, Okla. -- A carpenter says he has learned his lesson: Don't wear rival colors to Oklahoma State football coach Mike Gundy's house.Gundy is being sued by a contractor who says he agreed to work on the coach's home in March.

Brent Loveland of Choctaw says he arrived early in the morning on March 21 wearing a gray "Oklahoma Baseball" T-shirt with the university's name in red block letters. According to the lawsuit, Gundy arrived at the house at 9:30 a.m. and spotted Loveland's shirt. "How dare you come into my house and offend my wife," Gundy allegedly said.

Gundy then allegedly used profanity as he told the contractor to get off his property. Gundy called Loveland a "stupid idiot" for wearing the shirt on "OSU soil," and refused Loveland's apologies, the lawsuit says. The contractor offered to turn his shirt inside-out, but was refused, according to the suit.

Loveland said he was never asked about his school loyalties before agreeing to do the work. He sued Gundy Thursday in state court for more than $10,000 in damages. He says he lost more than $30,000 in income from an expected 13 weeks of work.

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Would you say the rage gold is the way to go? Any other thoughts or tips would being appreciated. :)

I love Rage Gold. I have used it for quite some time. You can also skip a final sand and use a good filler primer like Slick Sand from ever coat. Another trick is to take equal parts filler and resin, mix thoroughly, add your MEKP, then you can brush on the filler and it will self level. You can also pour it on as well, but this may cause air bubbles.

Ill be ordering some rage gold and slick sand then. Have you used the us composites resin before? If so was it the general purpose or 435(sp?)

Ill try the resin and filler mix later today.

Have to change my front dirtbike tire first, so fun.

I just get whatever is cheapest. All you need is a generic polyester resin. Just be careful if you let it cure before adding another layer. Many have styrene which wicks up to the surface as they cure and needs to be sanded off before laminating another layer. This is why your polyester resin feels waxy. You can use epoxy resin as it has no smell, but it's more expensive. It is more stable though and UV resistant, so if you are using it for something that will see weather, I would use it there. For the kicks, just use the cheapest polyester you can find.

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Would you say the rage gold is the way to go? Any other thoughts or tips would being appreciated. :)

I love Rage Gold. I have used it for quite some time. You can also skip a final sand and use a good filler primer like Slick Sand from ever coat. Another trick is to take equal parts filler and resin, mix thoroughly, add your MEKP, then you can brush on the filler and it will self level. You can also pour it on as well, but this may cause air bubbles.

Ill be ordering some rage gold and slick sand then. Have you used the us composites resin before? If so was it the general purpose or 435(sp?)

Ill try the resin and filler mix later today.

Have to change my front dirtbike tire first, so fun.

I just get whatever is cheapest. All you need is a generic polyester resin. Just be careful if you let it cure before adding another layer. Many have styrene which wicks up to the surface as they cure and needs to be sanded off before laminating another layer. This is why your polyester resin feels waxy. You can use epoxy resin as it has no smell, but it's more expensive. It is more stable though and UV resistant, so if you are using it for something that will see weather, I would use it there. For the kicks, just use the cheapest polyester you can find.

Yeah generally I lay a few layers down before letting is completely dry, otherwise I sand down a little bit to get rid of the "wax".

I finished the other pod today and installed it. I picked up a ton more midbass and sounds a good bit better in other areas.

Now I know kick pods are awesome, I'm a little better at glassing, and picked up some pointers on the way, I'm going to go at it again in a few weeks when I'm not burnt out and take my time.

Thanks for all the help.

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Spent the day walking around Baltimore. Seems nice.

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Aaron, we ate at Brick Oven Pizza and then went to Vacarro's.

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