Welcome to the IHoP

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

yeah the 6L powerstrokes had some definite problems

honestly I wouldn't even look at the mini trucks, as most half ton models with the base V8 are getting roughly the same mileage as their respective brand's mini truck's V6 are getting.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

I could have worded that better but meh

[j-roadtatts 1,129]

Fastfood/Tacobell=

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Extended Cab 6' Bed 4.8L

Mileage 14/19

Payload 1875

Towing 6700

Chevrolet Colorado Extended Cab 6' Bed 3.7L

Mileage 17/23

Payload 1741

Towing 5579

Ford F-150 SuperCab 4x2 6' Bed 4.6L 3v

Mileage 15/21

Payload 1680

Towing 6800

Ford Ranger SuperCab 4x2 6' Bed 4.0L

Mileage 15/21

Payload ????(Can't Find Info)

Towing 5940

Toyota Tundra Double Cab 4x2 6' Bed 4.6L

Mileage 15/20

Payload 1535

Towing 8100

Toyota Tacoma Access Cab 4x2 6' Bed 4.0L

Mileage 17/21

Payload 1415

Towing 6500

[topgun 262]

I'm doubting the brakes on that Tundra will effectively stop 8,000lbs on the highway...

[j-roadtatts 1,129]

I vote the FORD too. The Duramax was sweet when it came out, but that shows how looooong its been since I drove a diesel truck.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

I'm doubting the brakes on that Tundra will effectively stop 8,000lbs on the highway...

Define "effectively" :lol2:

[cheese20323 13]

on the vehicle note

in the next year or 2 I plan on buying a Tacoma Crew Cab Long bed

probably be around the 08' model or so

I still got alot more research to do, I did do a lil that's when I found out that the nissan frontier doesn't have a crew cab long bed anymore. Am i correct in my findings?

Why a mini man truck? If you're looking for some kind of dune hopping thingy I guess it might make sense.

Buy your flavor of american well made and low cost to fix pick 'em ups :coughFORDcough:. If there is something the US knows how to do it's make a GD pickup truck.

I dunno man. I will look into it but i doubt i will go full size, i just really don't know right now. I plan to make the purchase probably in ~2 years or so.

Just looking at my options. The only thing i have to pull right now is my lil 16' john boat, that also needs to be fixed as well...

And I'd run like hell from the Nissan. The Tacoma may be fine, but it is undersized, underpowered, and looks like a girls truck in stock form IMO.

If going with toyota get the tundra much better than the tacoma. But i vote ford.

[dem beats 1,223]

.....check engine light came on!

Could the check engine light come on from filling up with premium? I need to plug the tuner in. I've just been so busy every dang evening and day off.

I don't care how crappy I feel tomorrow I'm going to just chew pain meds and get all my stuff done.

It shouldn't. What engine do you have that you need premium?

I don't need it at all. I just get about 5-10% better mileage when I use premium. I also had planned on plugging in the tuner and thus would need to run high octane premium to get best results. They mention several times to make sure you run the octane you set it to in the manual for the livewire that you MUST use the octane you plug into the programmer.

Anyway, I never thought running higher would cause an issue and I know dang well I used to get significantly better mileage on premium. Using the lucas fuel treatment in those big jugs would yeild about the same increase when running regular fuel so normally I just went with that, but I ran out and filled up with premium.

I have a code reader on my livewire device... i'll plug it in and find out. I was just shocked to see the light come on.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

[dem beats 1,223]

Yay for diesel, it is probably chipped as well?

No actually. If you knew the guy, it's really odd he doesn't. He did have taller tires and a small body lift and in driving it didn't even make a real change in overal mileage.

That engine has run on hydrolic fluid or homade bio just filtered and ready to go. It's pretty amazing what tech is in it stock. It has some awesome functions for how the idle runs and how the boost changes depending on the situation.... pretty crazy shtuff.

[dem beats 1,223]

yeah the 6L powerstrokes had some definite problems

honestly I wouldn't even look at the mini trucks, as most half ton models with the base V8 are getting roughly the same mileage as their respective brand's mini truck's V6 are getting.

You know that turbo 6L is so weird. I know guys with over 300k and nothing major other than upkeep and general things that happen to engines with 300k on them.... and then I know 2 guys specifically who couldn't drive 50k without something blowing up on them.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

[dem beats 1,223]

I agree. That 8100 from the tundra is some kind of beefed up number.

I han't towed with one though so... what do I know.

[dem beats 1,223]

Tmax, here is what I will tell you about having a mini man truck. They are great for city dwellers who need to move small things or help move people, and lord knows I've over loaded them to the point of death. Once had ~1600 lbs in the "power" ranger.

The moment you talk about towing though I think that they are epic fail. They just don't have the weight, breaks or powa to do it safely. Also as for mileage if you do tow with a small truck it will drop the 1 or 2 MPG extra you get from a full size with even the lightest load.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

I agree. That 8100 from the tundra is some kind of beefed up number.

I han't towed with one though so... what do I know.

Its capable of towing that much; whether or not you would actually want to is another matter

Step up to the big boy V8's and you're looking at 10,000+ tow numbers

For the majority of situations, though, the smaller V8 models are plenty of truck

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

V6 Mini still beats out the half ton work truck V6 models, though

which is actually funny considering most half ton V6 ext. cab models have the same capacities as the Big Green Monster did.

[dem beats 1,223]

I agree. That 8100 from the tundra is some kind of beefed up number.

I han't towed with one though so... what do I know.

Its capable of towing that much; whether or not you would actually want to is another matter

Step up to the big boy V8's and you're looking at 10,000+ tow numbers

For the majority of situations, though, the smaller V8 models are plenty of truck

From my EXTREMELY limited experience with the tundra I was unimpressed with how it felt when hauling something in the bed. It wasn't horrible, just not what I expected for the hype. It may be capable of pulling an 8k weight but in the same vein of could it do it, a 'vette could.

It would just be horrible.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

[dem beats 1,223]

peng you are an internet marvel.

I'm verry glad you're here to post these things.

Have a beer on me.

[dem beats 1,223]

laughin and drinkin TOP

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

Tmax, here is what I will tell you about having a mini man truck. They are great for city dwellers who need to move small things or help move people, and lord knows I've over loaded them to the point of death. Once had ~1600 lbs in the "power" ranger.

The moment you talk about towing though I think that they are epic fail. They just don't have the weight, breaks or powa to do it safely. Also as for mileage if you do tow with a small truck it will drop the 1 or 2 MPG extra you get from a full size with even the lightest load.

I loaded Silver with ~1,000 pounds of dirt more than a few times, bumper pulled the 15' Whaler too. I miss her sometimes

[dem beats 1,223]

They completely have a roll to play, but unless economics of purchase price were limiting or someone specifically literally NEEDED smaller size or weight smaller trucks don't make sense.

If I could go back in time though I would have loved to have a tacoma while in high school that I could have just added parts to as time went on.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

Honestly, I think Ford is doing the right thing by eliminating the Ranger and sticking with 4 engines in the F-150