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[ssh 924]

Something else that might be a little shocking, there is not a lot of info linking carbohydrate, or sugar for that matter to developing diabetes.....

The predominant theories are based on the fact they linked sugary drinks to being fat/overweight and then overweight to being a big risk factor. It's similar to the saturated fat is bad for you theory. They kind of just kicked out the data they didn't like because when you are diabetic there is sugar in your blood. Well fat build up in your blood is like sugar build up in your eyes, or other organs. And diabetes itself really isn't a "killer". It's the associated heart disease that is.

I didn't know any of this before, but I was shocked even more when the ADA posted a study about how there isn't a significant relationship between sugar intake and the onset of diabetes. In fact in it made a connection between the group with a higher sucrose intake to be weigh less, and be less likely to have diabetes. It's the only large study but that shit cray.

I'll concede to that, but I do like to still be able to use my bf when needed, and sometimes carbs can be a hindrance to that (elevated insulin levels blunting fat oxidation). Then again protein can have a similar effect, so I try to eat it at the same time I eat carbs so it's not a double whammy.

Either way at the end of the day I'm still getting a substantial amount of carbs, and all I really need is more kcal regardless of what it comes from.

Edited January 11, 2013 by stefanhinote

[SS Teacher 177]

. I'm sure I could drink sugar water all day, get more kcal, and probably wouldn't develop diabetes, but I'd rather not fuck with the possibility when I don't have to.

But yet you'll eat 4 sticks of butter and have no fear about cholesterol problems or CVD.

I have to chuckle.

Your simply ignorant.

I'm laughing as I type this and not trying to be a dick, but when you call someone ignorant you want to say "you are" not "your", your is possessive. Sorry man, I do enjoy reading your posts and not trying to make an enemy.

[nem 2,019]

Looking for motivation to go and buys some wood and cut it up.

[///M5 2,833]

Stefan just want to put one perspective out there. As with anything in typed format it is easy to read what you like into the text. That being said, I am encouraging you to read everyone's comments not as trying to call you out, but instead as constructive. Right or wrong the only reason anyone is bringing anything up is because they want to help. Of course, helping without knowing the full picture doesn't always end up being help.

ie, no one wants you to take it as personal and I think everyone is actually encouraged by how you have put the "box" aside and are chasing your goal. Everyone on here is impressed by that and should be as it is the key to success. Chase on!

[The enD 467]

Chicken is nasty

What?

Nasty birds.

Maybe you can get some healthier ones where you are, but here it is the shittiest food.

We eat a decent amount here in my house unfortunately.

Well, that makes sense.

[ssh 924]

. I'm sure I could drink sugar water all day, get more kcal, and probably wouldn't develop diabetes, but I'd rather not fuck with the possibility when I don't have to.

But yet you'll eat 4 sticks of butter and have no fear about cholesterol problems or CVD.

I have to chuckle.

Your simply ignorant.

I'm laughing as I type this and not trying to be a dick, but when you call someone ignorant you want to say "you are" not "your", your is possessive. Sorry man, I do enjoy reading your posts and not trying to make an enemy.

Grammar has never been my strong suite.

[ssh 924]

Stefan just want to put one perspective out there. As with anything in typed format it is easy to read what you like into the text. That being said, I am encouraging you to read everyone's comments not as trying to call you out, but instead as constructive. Right or wrong the only reason anyone is bringing anything up is because they want to help. Of course, helping without knowing the full picture doesn't always end up being help.

ie, no one wants you to take it as personal and I think everyone is actually encouraged by how you have put the "box" aside and are chasing your goal. Everyone on here is impressed by that and should be as it is the key to success. Chase on!

I understand that, and lots of what was brought up was well intentioned, but some of it was equally ignorant, or incredibly annoying. Ignorance doesn't bug me that much, but unwavering annoyance does.

I feel this horse has been beaten to death, so we can all go back to whatever we were previously doing before I said "I'm going to regret this..."

[The enD 467]

PC chair reupholstery.

Old damaged leather

Lamborghini inspired... kinda.

[SS Teacher 177]

. I'm sure I could drink sugar water all day, get more kcal, and probably wouldn't develop diabetes, but I'd rather not fuck with the possibility when I don't have to.

But yet you'll eat 4 sticks of butter and have no fear about cholesterol problems or CVD.

I have to chuckle.

Your simply ignorant.

I'm laughing as I type this and not trying to be a dick, but when you call someone ignorant you want to say "you are" not "your", your is possessive. Sorry man, I do enjoy reading your posts and not trying to make an enemy.

Grammar has never been my strong suite.

I can't spell to save my life, I teach high school and students are constantly correcting my spelling.

[The enD 467]

First project done in a while, hope it's one of many to be done in 2013.

Edited January 11, 2013 by The enD

[ssh 924]

First project done in a while, hope it's one of many to be done in 2013.

Came out nice. I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to even start that.

[ssh 924]

I can do a hundred, but you don't have the time to watch!

rofl

[ssh 924]

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Seriously, wtf???

Wow

Closed instantly, I mean quick draw fast.

[Frostedflakejake 148]

Closed instantly, I mean quick draw fast.

Smart man. I wasted 5 minutes of my life waiting for something that someone would give two shits about.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Love TrueNutrition.com. All the supplementation I need for ~$1 a day with their bulk pricing

My protein and buzz saw just showed up in time as I have just run out yesterday.

[///M5 2,833]

First project done in a while, hope it's one of many to be done in 2013.

Came out nice. I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to even start that.

Agreed, looks great!

[The enD 467]

First project done in a while, hope it's one of many to be done in 2013.

Came out nice. I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to even start that.

Agreed, looks great!

Thanks guys.

I am planning to do the same style to my car seats.

[nem 2,019]

Looks nice Teo.

[///M5 2,833]

It was a wtf, not a please watch this. Come on. I hardly ever watch ANYTHING that anyone links.

[Godsmack 361]

More then anything it was just a major annoyance as I felt it was going absolutely no where--all the while in the back of my head I remember you mentioning you had so much experience in the field, yet some what recently developed diabetes. I have a stance that the majority of one's health falls to their diet, exercise, and lifestyle. I'm not saying genetics don't play a role, but I feel that the majority of the time they aren't the reason why John Doe had a heart attack, diabetes, etc. I just get tired of hearing people saying "it runs in the family," so therefore it's predisposed, and whatever I do diet or lifestyle wise is immaterial. I will admit that I haven't spent that much time researching anything to support this stance, so it's sort of a prejudice. Fwiw everyone on my mother's side has had heart attacks. My great grandfather died at age 55, and my grandfather required open heart surgery in his forties. My grandmother is a diabetic, has Alzheimer's, and dementia. I still genuinely feel I'm at an even playing field as almost everyone else for a healthy life regardless of all that family background--perhaps I'm wrong.

In Mexico, 90% of our company got sick. Of those 90%, 100% of them carried one hell of a medicine cabinet with them. The 10% of us that didn't don't medicate. Environment and your way of interacting with it is a bitch. More interesting the 10% also followed me around and ate street food on top of the all inclusive stuff.

In Iraq we had a local restaurant area of the base. Signs were posted EVERYWHERE 'Eat at own risk; not evaluated by medical staff'. I ate there at least one day a week and NEVER got sick. Hell some of the guys who went from time to time with us ate some of my food and got sick too. Yes their food growing procedures are MUCH different than ours, but the end result was damn good, and worth the risk every time.

I'd kill for another brick oven pizza from them.

J

[Godsmack 361]

I'd like some ideas here guys. I am getting close to needing new tires on my 2011 Toyota Tundra. It does have 4 wheel drive and currently has a P275/65R18 on it now. I am wanting something with a bit more aggressive of a tread pattern as I do appreciate the better grip in dirt and mud, as well as on rocks and snow. I will be driving into 'snow country' soon and want to have the best bang for my buck. Any recommendations on brand and/or model???

J

[ssh 924]

I'd like some ideas here guys. I am getting close to needing new tires on my 2011 Toyota Tundra. It does have 4 wheel drive and currently has a P275/65R18 on it now. I am wanting something with a bit more aggressive of a tread pattern as I do appreciate the better grip in dirt and mud, as well as on rocks and snow. I will be driving into 'snow country' soon and want to have the best bang for my buck. Any recommendations on brand and/or model???

J

Depending on how much grip you want, bf Goodrich km2, all terrain, or nitto graplers.

[Godsmack 361]

I'd like some ideas here guys. I am getting close to needing new tires on my 2011 Toyota Tundra. It does have 4 wheel drive and currently has a P275/65R18 on it now. I am wanting something with a bit more aggressive of a tread pattern as I do appreciate the better grip in dirt and mud, as well as on rocks and snow. I will be driving into 'snow country' soon and want to have the best bang for my buck. Any recommendations on brand and/or model???

J

Depending on how much grip you want, bf Goodrich km2, all terrain, or nitto graplers.

I was looking at the all terrain and I have looked at graplers in the past. What is so good about the km2? I haven't seen them yet.

Grip is never a bad thing. I don't take my truck our sliding on asphalt (intentionally) except for an ocasional burn out, which will stop once I have new tires.

J

[sandt38 448]

. I'm sure I could drink sugar water all day, get more kcal, and probably wouldn't develop diabetes, but I'd rather not fuck with the possibility when I don't have to.

But yet you'll eat 4 sticks of butter and have no fear about cholesterol problems or CVD.

I have to chuckle.

Your simply ignorant.

I am ignorant? Or your ignorant? If you are going to call me ignorant for voicing an opinion that may be contradictory to yours, at least do yourself a favor and don't display your ignorance in just a few words.

No offense dude, but your (properly used) ideas seem more than a little hypocritical and rather narrow minded. You elect to let me know why huge fat intakes, while the vast majority of the medical community disagrees with your personal beliefs, are totally safe. Yet in the next breath you elect to inform me that you choose not to take in sugar, since the vast majority of the medical community agrees with your personal belief.

The cool thing about the internet is, I can find a million reasons why both of us are right, and both of us are wrong. Perhaps you should learn that when one is, what 22 years old, you don't know everything. No matter how much you choose to copy and paste shit to disprove someone both you and your source may be wrong. I am twice your age, and frankly I don't know shit. But I do know this: between the 2 of us your wordy disputes are proof that you don't want to listen and learn from people who have been around a lot longer, and have likely learned a thing or 2 more than you.

Frankly I don't care to prove anything, unlike you who is getting terribly defensive and jumping everyone's shit for disagreeing with you, or simply voicing alternative perspectives.

But I can tell you this; I have been lifting longer then you have been alive. I can gain weight and mass, and lose weight and mass quite readily. You are stagnant. So tell me, who do you really think has more real world, first hand experience? Who do you think is just reading shit and reposting it like it is prophecy? Who do you think is the more successful of the 2 of us at gaining weight and mass? I am currently 6'1" and 225 pounds. By summer I will be 205 pounds and cut fairly lean. Guess what will happen next year? Guess who doesn't have diabetes, even though my family has a propensity towards diabetes? Guess who doesn't have high cholesterol even though my family is predisposed to CVD? I have proof that my shit works, you have nothing but an idea that, thus far, has proven to be unfruitful.

Stefan just want to put one perspective out there. As with anything in typed format it is easy to read what you like into the text. That being said, I am encouraging you to read everyone's comments not as trying to call you out, but instead as constructive. Right or wrong the only reason anyone is bringing anything up is because they want to help. Of course, helping without knowing the full picture doesn't always end up being help.

ie, no one wants you to take it as personal and I think everyone is actually encouraged by how you have put the "box" aside and are chasing your goal. Everyone on here is impressed by that and should be as it is the key to success. Chase on!

Exactly.

Frankly I am tired of you (Stefan) being a defensive douchebag. It is one thing to debate and joke a little, but it has gone beyond that. The kindergarten playground namecalling is fucking weak.

I am done with this conversation. Stefan, continue on with your failure to achieve your goal if that is what you want to do. The best thing we can hope for is that maybe you will put your ego aside for a little bit and try what is obviously working for others.

On that note, I have no personal issue with you. But if you have one with me, let me know. I am not afraid to tell someone to go fuck themselves quite directly, and frankly, I will not be called ignorant by someone half my age who lives at home with his mother without telling him to go fuck himself.

We cool?