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[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Why? What's the need for all the processing?

My current phone, with supposedly a decent processor, cannot keep up with what I need. Bogs down, locks up, and gets very slow even during texting at the gym while listening to music.

[Godsmack 361]

I desperately need a real job. Managing a DJ sounds like it would be one hell of a fun gig though.

I did it a little in the past in the summers.

I need to start looking for work outside the Military. Problem is I still have no fucking clue when I am leaving. I know what I would like to do, the problem is getting my foot shoved into those doors is a bitch.

J

[MKader17 332]

To be honest, there was a time period when android was just pushing things out just because. The Thunderbolt IMO is one of the terrible abominations they released during that era. HTC rushed it out to be the first with LTE. Anything newer will be so much better. Some phones have the same specs but they really did work with smoothing things out. The Galaxy nexus is a great device at 1.2 GHz Dual core even though it is getting "older". They also are upgrading from A8 to A15 chipsets that are faster and more efficient. Also, Exynos has a dual core that is faster than the Tegra 3 quadcore

Are you on Verizon? If so the DNA, and Note 2 are great if you want something big. I think that the Razr HD line is pretty good as well as the M if you want something smaller. The S4 is "around the corner" but it won't be announced until after CES so probably late Jan, early Feb and it won't be released until May or June of next year.

Outside of Verizon the Note 2 is still great, as well as the SIII and the Nexus 4.

[ssh 924]

Why? What's the need for all the processing?

My current phone, with supposedly a decent processor, cannot keep up with what I need. Bogs down, locks up, and gets very slow even during texting at the gym while listening to music.

Weird. You must have a bunch of stuff open at once. My basic RAZR m works fine with 6 chrome tabs open, pdf viewer, texting, and Pandora all at once.

[jonbearsmt 919]

well i was trying to keep it under wraps and do an unvailing, but facebook fucked it up for me... ..

i will now be running a pair of SSA Zcons ...

i bought a pair for the mulit bass boxing champion nic watts !

on the way to texas as we speak

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Why? What's the need for all the processing?

My current phone, with supposedly a decent processor, cannot keep up with what I need. Bogs down, locks up, and gets very slow even during texting at the gym while listening to music.

Weird. You must have a bunch of stuff open at once. My basic RAZR m works fine with 6 chrome tabs open, pdf viewer, texting, and Pandora all at once.

I've gone through a handful of different series of thought, some Android geeks say to kill apps often, others say it is best to leave them alone. Restart daily, which is a very long process.

[MKader17 332]

Why? What's the need for all the processing?

My current phone, with supposedly a decent processor, cannot keep up with what I need. Bogs down, locks up, and gets very slow even during texting at the gym while listening to music.

Weird. You must have a bunch of stuff open at once. My basic RAZR m works fine with 6 chrome tabs open, pdf viewer, texting, and Pandora all at once.

It should be noted that the RAM management of Android is vastly different than your typical computer. Having 6 tabs "open" really isn't so. Android actively monitors RAM and shuts things down (or removes the ability to quickly recall something you haven't used in a while) as needed. For instance. If you have 6 chrome tabs open it may save the pages into RAM for fast flipping between them. However, as you begin to use other programs Android will likely save some sort of "screenshot" but dump the what is needed to interact with it to free up RAM. The freed RAM will then be used to remember what page you left the new programs on or something else useful. Therefore, when you come back to Chrome it will show that "screenshot" quickly before re-loading the page entirely. It's really a genius system, but took a while to perfect.

Apple, on the other hand would just pause a program when you navigate away form it. Android allocates ~10% of resources to continue to process "background apps" and gives priority to most recently used programs.

On your computer it process each screen as if it is the foreground program being used, Android does not.

All that to say, that your Razr M does handle all of that, with ease, but its not as revealing to the performance of your device like it would be on a PC. Android has made massive improvements to RAM management and performance increase has also come from sheer increases in phone "horsepower".

Theoretically, it should matter how much you have running, as Android should be able to strip away the lower priority to keep your experience smooth. The older phones did a terrible job of that. Since then they have made improvements to the system to do a better job of this while maintaining multitasking.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

To be honest, there was a time period when android was just pushing things out just because. The Thunderbolt IMO is one of the terrible abominations they released during that era. HTC rushed it out to be the first with LTE. Anything newer will be so much better. Some phones have the same specs but they really did work with smoothing things out. The Galaxy nexus is a great device at 1.2 GHz Dual core even though it is getting "older". They also are upgrading from A8 to A15 chipsets that are faster and more efficient. Also, Exynos has a dual core that is faster than the Tegra 3 quadcore

Are you on Verizon? If so the DNA, and Note 2 are great if you want something big. I think that the Razr HD line is pretty good as well as the M if you want something smaller. The S4 is "around the corner" but it won't be announced until after CES so probably late Jan, early Feb and it won't be released until May or June of next year.

Outside of Verizon the Note 2 is still great, as well as the SIII and the Nexus 4.

Thanks for that. Yes, Verizon, and yes, in retrospect, I realize the Thunderbolt was half-baked a few months after purchase, even with the heavy aftermarket hunch back battery and 4G off, battery life BLOWS. And yes, I cycle the battery letting it die fully and charge it fully. But, even then, just like the smaller stock battery, it needs to charge here the whole day at the office, and every night while I sleep, sometimes the car charger is a must too, so the MASS majority of it's life, my phone has been on the charger. RUN-ON I KNOW!!! .

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Why? What's the need for all the processing?

My current phone, with supposedly a decent processor, cannot keep up with what I need. Bogs down, locks up, and gets very slow even during texting at the gym while listening to music.

Weird. You must have a bunch of stuff open at once. My basic RAZR m works fine with 6 chrome tabs open, pdf viewer, texting, and Pandora all at once.

It should be noted that the RAM management of Android is vastly different than your typical computer. Having 6 tabs "open" really isn't so. Android actively monitors RAM and shuts things down (or removes the ability to quickly recall something you haven't used in a while) as needed. For instance. If you have 6 chrome tabs open it may save the pages into RAM for fast flipping between them. However, as you begin to use other programs Android will likely save some sort of "screenshot" but dump the what is needed to interact with it to free up RAM. The freed RAM will then be used to remember what page you left the new programs on or something else useful. Therefore, when you come back to Chrome it will show that "screenshot" quickly before re-loading the page entirely. It's really a genius system, but took a while to perfect.

Apple, on the other hand would just pause a program when you navigate away form it. Android allocates ~10% of resources to continue to process "background apps" and gives priority to most recently used programs.

On your computer it process each screen as if it is the foreground program being used, Android does not.

All that to say, that your Razr M does handle all of that, with ease, but its not as revealing to the performance of your device like it would be on a PC. Android has made massive improvements to RAM management and performance increase has also come from sheer increases in phone "horsepower".

Theoretically, it should matter how much you have running, as Android should be able to strip away the lower priority to keep your experience smooth. The older phones did a terrible job of that. Since then they have made improvements to the system to do a better job of this while maintaining multitasking.

Many of these characteristics are why I am highly considering a Chomebook to have on me at all times. My lappy is a tank, and it would be very sweet to have a moderate sized tablet (with keyboard because no touch screen does what I need when it comes to typing fast and assurance that the correct key was hit), that has good battery life and is quite inexpensive. BUT, and this is a big one, the Chromebooks seem to not allow any outside software installation.

[///M5 2,833]

Personally if I paid for my phone, I'd buy a used phone and a plan from a carrier like pageplus.

[ssh 924]

Why? What's the need for all the processing?

My current phone, with supposedly a decent processor, cannot keep up with what I need. Bogs down, locks up, and gets very slow even during texting at the gym while listening to music.

Weird. You must have a bunch of stuff open at once. My basic RAZR m works fine with 6 chrome tabs open, pdf viewer, texting, and Pandora all at once.

I've gone through a handful of different series of thought, some Android geeks say to kill apps often, others say it is best to leave them alone. Restart daily, which is a very long process.

Not sure what Android OS you have, but the current has a button showing active apps and you can swipe each to kill it, so it's fast and easy.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Why? What's the need for all the processing?

My current phone, with supposedly a decent processor, cannot keep up with what I need. Bogs down, locks up, and gets very slow even during texting at the gym while listening to music.

Weird. You must have a bunch of stuff open at once. My basic RAZR m works fine with 6 chrome tabs open, pdf viewer, texting, and Pandora all at once.

I've gone through a handful of different series of thought, some Android geeks say to kill apps often, others say it is best to leave them alone. Restart daily, which is a very long process.

Not sure what Android OS you have, but the current has a button showing active apps and you can swipe each to kill it, so it's fast and easy.

Believe the latest version has not been rolled out to my phone.

[///M5 2,833]

And shit, I just realized I was supposed to do exactly that for my wife. Hadn't even thought about what to buy yet.

Was going to be her Christmas present.

[///M5 2,833]

from Santa. We don't give each other presents, but figure the kids should see Santa bring us something too.

[MKader17 332]

Why? What's the need for all the processing?

My current phone, with supposedly a decent processor, cannot keep up with what I need. Bogs down, locks up, and gets very slow even during texting at the gym while listening to music.

Weird. You must have a bunch of stuff open at once. My basic RAZR m works fine with 6 chrome tabs open, pdf viewer, texting, and Pandora all at once.

I've gone through a handful of different series of thought, some Android geeks say to kill apps often, others say it is best to leave them alone. Restart daily, which is a very long process.

Best to leave it alone now. All killing apps does is waste a bit of battery.

[MKader17 332]

I'll take that back slightly.

It is nice to have the ability to kill apps if they go rogue on you and mess up. Happens every now and then.

[dem beats 1,223]

I haven't got my wife anything yet.

And thanks for the tips one good places for pics Sean. Hard to appreciate what I see everyday sometimes.

[MKader17 332]

And shit, I just realized I was supposed to do exactly that for my wife. Hadn't even thought about what to buy yet.

Was going to be her Christmas present.

S3, or Razr M depending on her wants/needs. Could even buy a 3g iPhone 4.

[MKader17 332]

I haven't got my wife anything yet.

And thanks for the tips one good places for pics Sean. Hard to appreciate what I see everyday sometimes.

That's a bad ass idea by the way.

[MKader17 332]

Too bad we have to pay people to take decent shots of us!

[///M5 2,833]

And shit, I just realized I was supposed to do exactly that for my wife. Hadn't even thought about what to buy yet.

Was going to be her Christmas present.

S3, or Razr M depending on her wants/needs. Could even buy a 3g iPhone 4.

She isn't that crafty. ie, I can go cheaper

And no more fucking Apple products in this house.

[ssh 924]

And shit, I just realized I was supposed to do exactly that for my wife. Hadn't even thought about what to buy yet.

Was going to be her Christmas present.

S3, or Razr M depending on her wants/needs. Could even buy a 3g iPhone 4.

She isn't that crafty. ie, I can go cheaper :)/>

And no more fucking Apple products in this house.

RAZR m is around 50-100 depending on holiday sales.

[MKader17 332]

I think Sean is looking to buy outright.

[MKader17 332]

Well, if you can snag a new/used Galaxy Nexus it is a great phone that will be able to last far longer than any other phones released in it's era. I will say that my battery life is "okay". I could get a full 24 hours out of it when I initially got it. Also, the glass on the screen is more prone to scratches then some others.

I would stay away from a lot of other phones for the simple fact that an unlocked phone will be supported by developers for a long time.

[MKader17 332]

Also, Swappa seems to be a good place to buy used phones.