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[jonbearsmt 919]

i dont see the big deal of her getting her ass whooped.. she should have bent over and took it on the ass .. she did nothing but make it worse by not doing what she was told. seems she has a problem with not doing what she is told.

perhaps he hit a few too many times on the legs but she would not listen!

i got beat much much much much much worse when i was growing up by my moms husbands.. all of them 1 was the worse, he would use crazy shit to beat me with, shovels and crow bars, and even a hammer once, usually his fist,

my mom would use cast iron pans and buckle of western belts, and most offten my own belongings my stereos and such,

but more then physical abuse what really bothered me was the last straw, i was 14 i came home from school.. i seen smoke in the back yard.. i went back to the burn pile and i seen speaker baskets and motors, and springs,

she had emptied my room.. took it all to the burn pile and set it on fire. im talking everything i owned, i had sooooo much stuff.. all of value,. see i worked from the age of 12, and bought everything i owned,mom was allways at her b/fs house in another town.. and would only come home when they fought .. about 1 time a month,.

that was the day i took the only shirts and 1 set of pants that i was wearing, put them in a trash bag and rode off into the sunset on my bike, never to come back.

i moved around getting jobs for weeks at a time untill they DEMANDED a copy of my ID and SSn then i would quit get my check and bored a gray hound buss and it was on to the next state.

my life was nuts.

but it made me a better person.

when i was 24 my little sister was addicted to drugs with a baby, so to give my nephew a chance at life, i moved my nephew ,my sister,, and mom to texas, and got my sister clean, educated and in the army. and my nephew is a awsome person now.

shit would have never happened if i wernt the man that beatings made me.

my sister crys and thanks me like a crazy person every time she thinks about how she lived before i moved her here... she hated me for a year or so once getting here but today she could never fathom life if i wouldn't have.

kids these days are PUSSIES!

[jonbearsmt 919]

Nothing for me. Too lazy to make something.

trying to get back onto a diet,

[The enD 467]

You've had quite the life, but you can't compare your situation with someone else. In a normal family, if a kid does something stupid it should be punishing of course. But not with pain. You ground it, you take it's money, you take his whatever electronic device it's on. Make it regret what it's done. Sit down, talk what has happened, why you've made that decision.

Hitting does help, but it should be in a form of a slap or a light hit on the back of the head.

NOT to make you cry and beg and scream for the person to stop hitting you...

[The enD 467]

People take things differently.

You took it, you beat it, you become better.

But some take it, but can't overtake it. They get antisocial, shy, don't talk to people, depression, isolation from the world. If the mind is weak, it just fails. Some commit suicide, some go to mental hospital.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

i got beat much much much much much worse when i was growing up by my moms husbands.. all of them 1 was the worse, he would use crazy shit to beat me with, shovels and crow bars, and even a hammer once, usually his fist,

my mom would use cast iron pans and buckle of western belts, and most offten my own belongings my stereos and such,

but more then physical abuse what really bothered me was the last straw, i was 14 i came home from school.. i seen smoke in the back yard.. i went back to the burn pile and i seen speaker baskets and motors, and springs,

she had emptied my room.. took it all to the burn pile and set it on fire. im talking everything i owned, i had sooooo much stuff.. all of value,. see i worked from the age of 12, and bought everything i owned,mom was allways at her b/fs house in another town.. and would only come home when they fought .. about 1 time a month,.

that was the day i took the only shirts and 1 set of pants that i was wearing, put them in a trash bag and rode off into the sunset on my bike, never to come back.

i moved around getting jobs for weeks at a time untill they DEMANDED a copy of my ID and SSn then i would quit get my check and bored a gray hound buss and it was on to the next state.

my life was nuts.

but it made me a better person.

9 times out of ten kids exposed to that are deeply affected psychologically and emotionally the rest of their lives; in other words you are the exception

[jonbearsmt 919]

well shit.

i spent time typing a rebuttal but fuck it.

it is what it is.

[S.DeYoung 968]

Props to you bigjon for overcoming so much and improving your life and your family's.

[jonbearsmt 919]

Props to you bigjon for overcoming so much and improving your life and your family's.

thanks.. ill never regret the sacfices i made to change my sister and my nephews life,... but my mom on the pother hand.. mother fucker!

4 years she has been here, and she has become my child in a way. she lives in my house. pays no rent, quits and gets fired from jobs, lays around doing nothing instead of looking for work!.

lies to me, and needs me to pay her bills, talks all the time. and expects EVERYTHING out of me.

and in some twisted fucked up way.. she thinks she did a

GOOD job.

she tells people that shes sorry i grew up the way i did.. but shes glad i did .. because my brother and sister are complete opposite of me.

so shes glad i went thru all that.

trips me out.. because she truly takes credit for everything i have done in life.

o well.

[The enD 467]

How could you have such a person living with you? It's your mother, but after all she has "done" for you...

[ssh 924]

Most people that were severely beat when they were a child grow up and do the same to their kids. There are always exceptions, but just because something worked well for one person doesn't mean everyone else should endure the same.

[jonbearsmt 919]

i guess i figured that if i dont turn it around.. it wont get turned....

me and my chick fight about it all the time.. "after everything she did to you .. you just keep on giving to her.. you just keep letting her do what ever she wants"

and its a valid arrangement... i know she thought i was ling about my childhood. but she knows now it true.

i just figured that if i dont turn this shit around.. no one ever will.. so i have made the effort to change how our shittty family works..

also.. as far as children.. thats why i dont have any.. i never wanted to fuck someone elses life up im 28 ill be 29 in December .. and i dont have any kids, and im still scared to have kids. its a huge responsibility .. financially, emotionally and just a commitment. what if i do a shit job.. what if what if what if.....

then i see my friends.. no jobs, no house, no future, with 6 kids, and they are younger then me.. just popin them out..

[Adrian_D 520]

Just in case this hasn't been plastered all over the internet

http://thedailywh.at/2011/11/01/call-to-action-of-the-day/

I can't even get half way through it. I can watch hadji's be tortured, see some of the most depraved fucked up torture techniques performed (in person and in video) and to watch a child be beaten by an adult fills me with such rage its not even funny.

I seriously hope he gets locked up in general pop and the lifers have a good time with him. Its just re-damn-diculous to go off like that. A simple pop on the ass or a smack in the mouth (all situation dependent) fine. That's not beating, that's discipline. Using a belt and tag teaming your kid with your wife helping you and her telling her to 'take it like a grown woman' is out of line.

J

What fucktards :|

I got my share of discipline but it ended very very quickly. They deserve to be ass raped with sticks for what they did....

[Tirefryr 1,742]

I didn't watch the video and I won't. I got many ass whoopins as a child and while it did not deter me from doing bad things, it definitely made me think twice. I have smacked my son's ass several times, but I've found sticking him in the corner with his face in it works much better. You get experts who say don't do that because it humiliates them. I'm pretty sure they have no clue about humiliation at 3 years old. His mother goes straight for the butt whoopins and he pays her no mind.

Each child and each circumstance is different. I can tell you, as a teen, I needed my ass whooped to open my eyes. Others may not have been able to handle that, but for me, it was the medicine I needed.

I do agree with you Jon on the fact that kids are pussies. Most think they are entitled to shit too. I can tell you, when my son starts playing sports, if he doesn't win, he's not getting a trophy. Fuck that shit. It's NOT okay to fail. he will learn to work hard and EARN his rewards.

[Julian 641]

fucked up

[Adrian_D 520]

also.. as far as children.. thats why i dont have any.. i never wanted to fuck someone elses life up im 28 ill be 29 in December .. and i dont have any kids, and im still scared to have kids. its a huge responsibility .. financially, emotionally and just a commitment. what if i do a shit job.. what if what if what if.....

then i see my friends.. no jobs, no house, no future, with 6 kids, and they are younger then me.. just popin them out..

That's a very good point of view. Kids = lots of responsibility.

We have lots of people here who can barely afford to live yet pop out kids, only to end up living in horrible conditions...I can't understand how some can be so irresponsible.

[Adrian_D 520]

Discipline is one thing, the tag-team in that video is too much.

Ryan, I still remember when I was sent to the corner by my dad...I was probably 5 or 6. For me it worked excellent And I still remember ass whoopins...

[The enD 467]

The population just hit 7 billion people...

[jonbearsmt 919]

I do agree with you Jon on the fact that kids are pussies. Most think they are entitled to shit too. I can tell you, when my son starts playing sports, if he doesn't win, he's not getting a trophy. Fuck that shit. It's NOT okay to fail. he will learn to work hard and EARN his rewards.

thank you!!! thank you very much.. i typed that 4 times.. but i think i deleted it every time..

buncha trophy getting losers.

you dont win you dont win.. thats it!... no fucking pizza party for losers. DO BETTER NEXT TIME.

and me and my chick arrue about this all the time..

she is 21 just turned 21 the other day.. and im 28 .. she feels that she should get everything handed to her.

when we started dating she was 19 .... she got her eyes opened WIDE,

[ssh 924]

I didn't watch the video and I won't. I got many ass whoopins as a child and while it did not deter me from doing bad things, it definitely made me think twice. I have smacked my son's ass several times, but I've found sticking him in the corner with his face in it works much better. You get experts who say don't do that because it humiliates them. I'm pretty sure they have no clue about humiliation at 3 years old. His mother goes straight for the butt whoopins and he pays her no mind.

Each child and each circumstance is different. I can tell you, as a teen, I needed my ass whooped to open my eyes. Others may not have been able to handle that, but for me, it was the medicine I needed.

I do agree with you Jon on the fact that kids are pussies. Most think they are entitled to shit too. I can tell you, when my son starts playing sports, if he doesn't win, he's not getting a trophy. Fuck that shit. It's NOT okay to fail. he will learn to work hard and EARN his rewards.

I could be misreading so correct me if I'm wrong, but are you the kind of person that forces your child to win and be the best in what he chooses to play?

Or are you simply saying "I'm not going to reward him when he hasn't accomplished any goals" ?

[S.DeYoung 968]

Ugh its pointless expressing opinions to some people. I am talking to a wall right now. Don't ask a question if you don't want an answer.

[Godsmack 361]

Please allow me toss in my two pennies here.

John and anyone else who sees it like he has I am sorry you grew up thinking this kind of shit is normal.

The father shows classic symptoms of what is commonly referred to as a superiority complex. This usually follows 'small dick' or a 'Napoleon' complex. He feels inferior about something and takes it out on those around him.

I was spanked, and spanked often as a child. I will do the same to mine. I believe in a hand or possibly a wooden spoon across the ass. A belt, clothes hanger, electrical cord etc is a bit much. Especially when you are being hit repeatedly. Even more so you should not put emotion into it, and allow yourself to get worked up and strike your child more or harder because you are mad. That is the wrong fucking answer.

If you are breaking a horse and you get pissed off because your wife comes clean about fucking the milkman, are you going to beat the horse? I don't think so.

Or more to a sensitive spot here if you come home from getting fired and your pit bull was nibbling on a shoe would you beat his ass? And then when he won't come to you and submit to a beating repeatedly yell at and beat the pitt for his nibbling on your shoe? I do not fucking think so.

Treat your kids like you want to see animals treated, and vice versa.

J

[Godsmack 361]

All that said, I do agree kids are pussies. CPS is oftne called for no fucking reason, kids need to get hurt, get dirty, know that 2nd is the first loser, and know what right and wrong is.

I am not saying lets all beat our kids and be pricks, but these Dr. Phil advice taking, Oprah loving, germ fearing, private 20k a year school, special tutors because little tommy is 4 and can't say his fucking name right and yet I do nothing but ignore the little fucker partents need to get a fucking clue.

"Boo hoo my life was so hard mommy didn't give me enough love, or daddy used to drink" sad sack excuses for adults and parents should of been eliminated by Darwin before they could flood the gene pool.

I know that the kids I grew up with who's parents beat their ass (and I mean BEAT not just spanked when they fucked up) are damn good parents and at least moderately successful in life. The ones who got everything handed to them on a platter are fucking wastes of space and usually fell so hard into drugs and drinking during college that they never recovered.

It is a fine line, but it can be straddled.

J

[Godsmack 361]

I didn't watch the video and I won't. I got many ass whoopins as a child and while it did not deter me from doing bad things, it definitely made me think twice. I have smacked my son's ass several times, but I've found sticking him in the corner with his face in it works much better. You get experts who say don't do that because it humiliates them. I'm pretty sure they have no clue about humiliation at 3 years old. His mother goes straight for the butt whoopins and he pays her no mind.

Each child and each circumstance is different. I can tell you, as a teen, I needed my ass whooped to open my eyes. Others may not have been able to handle that, but for me, it was the medicine I needed.

I do agree with you Jon on the fact that kids are pussies. Most think they are entitled to shit too. I can tell you, when my son starts playing sports, if he doesn't win, he's not getting a trophy. Fuck that shit. It's NOT okay to fail. he will learn to work hard and EARN his rewards.

I could be misreading so correct me if I'm wrong, but are you the kind of person that forces your child to win and be the best in what he chooses to play?

Or are you simply saying "I'm not going to reward him when he hasn't accomplished any goals" ?

Interesting question Stefan. While I cannot speak for him, for me its choice number 2.

J

[Tirefryr 1,742]

I didn't watch the video and I won't. I got many ass whoopins as a child and while it did not deter me from doing bad things, it definitely made me think twice. I have smacked my son's ass several times, but I've found sticking him in the corner with his face in it works much better. You get experts who say don't do that because it humiliates them. I'm pretty sure they have no clue about humiliation at 3 years old. His mother goes straight for the butt whoopins and he pays her no mind.

Each child and each circumstance is different. I can tell you, as a teen, I needed my ass whooped to open my eyes. Others may not have been able to handle that, but for me, it was the medicine I needed.

I do agree with you Jon on the fact that kids are pussies. Most think they are entitled to shit too. I can tell you, when my son starts playing sports, if he doesn't win, he's not getting a trophy. Fuck that shit. It's NOT okay to fail. he will learn to work hard and EARN his rewards.

I could be misreading so correct me if I'm wrong, but are you the kind of person that forces your child to win and be the best in what he chooses to play?

Or are you simply saying "I'm not going to reward him when he hasn't accomplished any goals" ?

Wow, I don't know how you got the first part by reading that, but minds work differently. I was stating that I will not reward him for failing. I don't see how people can find that okay. I will NOT punish him for it either, that's just asinine. Failure is a part of life and a necessary tool for success. Like I typed above, if he is on a sports team in which, "nobody loses," or "we don't keep score," yeah, I'll keep score and let him know they didn't win. He's already ahead of the game their anyways, but the fact that kids don't understand life's lessons anymore because they are either to stupid to realize them due to overprotective parents, or they don't give a damn because their parents were never around, will have no play in my house. I'm old school, and my son will grow up with a strong work ethic and he will work for what he earns and he will have to earn something if he wants it.

[Godsmack 361]

1990 Firebird

Put up my firebird for sale. I just wanna see if I get any response at all down here.

J