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I'd like to see anyone willingly drink that much Beck's

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this town has gone way downhill ever since the local butchers closed up shop

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I'd like to see anyone willingly drink that much Beck's

Been there, done that, not again.

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The Food and Drug Administration warned the nation's dietary supplements industry Wednesday against spiking its products with steroids, prescription drugs and other prohibited substances.

The warning was the latest salvo in a long-running battle between federal regulators and an industry that is held to far less rigorous health and safety standards than those imposed on makers of pharmaceuticals and medical devices – thanks in part to powerful friends in Congress.

Unlike drugs, dietary supplements don't have to be proven safe before being sold and manufacturers can make general claims about health benefits.

Testing showed what the FDA termed "an alarming variety" of prescription compounds tainting supplements, including anticoagulants, anticonvulsants, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) and beta blockers, the agency said.

The FDA urged supplements producers to keep a closer eye on the production and distribution of their products and urged them to report suspect activity to a specially designated email address or to FDA's office of criminal investigations.

Since 2007, nearly 300 products marketed as supplements have been found to contain potentially dangerous or illegal ingredients, most of them sold as diet, weightlifting or sexual enhancement aids, FDA principal deputy commissioner Joshua Sharfstein said in a telephone call with reporters.

More than 80 bodybuilding compounds, 70 sexual enhancement aids and 40 weight loss supplements have been recalled under FDA prodding, according the agency's letter to industry.

"This is progress, but we cannot claim success," Sharfstein said. The presence of tainted products "undermines consumer confidence in legally marketed supplements," he said.

Consumers should be wary of supplements sold as alternatives to prescription drugs, or as legal alternatives to steroids, preparations sold via the Internet or marketed primarily in a foreign language, Sharfstein said.

Tainted supplements have been linked to dozens of reports of adverse events including strokes, liver and kidney damage and deaths, according to an FDA spokeswoman, who said that she did not have specifics.

FDA believes the number of adverse events is likely underreported for a variety of reasons including a desire to avoid embarrassment over use of bodybuilding or sexual enhancement products, she said.

Among the potentially dangerous substances found in some supplements was fenfluramine, a pharmaceutical ingredient removed from the market for safety reasons. Others contained controlled substances including benzodiazepines and anabolic steroids, the FDA said.

Just last week, the FDA warned consumers against using Man Up Now, a sexual enhancement aid that contains a chemical similar to sildenafil, the active ingredient in Viagra.

In October, the agency told consumers to stay away from Slimming Beauty Bitter Orange Slimming Capsules because they contained sibutramine, a prescription-only stimulant with Spanish language packaging, which was passed out a month earlier at Mexican Independence Day festivities in Chicago.

Sharfstein was joined by the leaders of five major supplements trade associations, who framed the problem as the fault of industry outsiders, describing them as "hijackers," "pirates" and "people who work in the shadows."

"Every time there's a news report of a tainted supplement, it's bad for the industry," said Ivan Wasserman, a Washington attorney, who represents supplement makers.

Wasserman said many of the tainted products are sold by "smaller, Internet-based off-brands."

But a leading consumer advocate termed industry portrayal of the problem as a diversion from the real problem with supplements.

"Even if not contaminated, in many cases they do not have evidence of safety and effectiveness," said Sidney Wolfe, of Public Citizens' Health Research Group.

Unlike drugs, dietary supplements don't have to be proven safe before being sold and manufacturers have wide latitude to make health claims.

The industry has long had a powerful friends on Capitol Hill, chief among them

The industry's political patrons include Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, whose state is home to a sizeable chunk of the supplements industry and who sponsored the 1994 legislation that gave supplement makers their sheltered regulatory niche.

The FDA's letter notes that manufacturers and distributors are responsible for ensuring that their products comply with the law and urged them to email, [email protected] or the portal of FDA's office of criminal investigations, http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/CriminalInvestigations/default.htm with information about tainted products.

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[Duran 387]

I know plenty of girls who would literally eat, drink, shower, and brush their teeth with semen.

Different folks, different strokes. My girl just gags like its gonna come out her nose.

Shit dude time to move to IN.

J

Got to any small town in the US and you'll find several of them.

My ex from SLC loved to gobble my go gurt

Damn I miss that head. Woman was a sexual fiend

[Julian 641]

Adrian, we need a "Meanwhile in Romania" picture.

I was just about to do that.

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[Godsmack 361]

I know plenty of girls who would literally eat, drink, shower, and brush their teeth with semen.

Different folks, different strokes. My girl just gags like its gonna come out her nose.

Shit dude time to move to IN.

J

Got to any small town in the US and you'll find several of them.

My ex from SLC loved to gobble my go gurt

Damn I miss that head. Woman was a sexual fiend

Well she is an ex for a reason.

We all have at least one ex like that.

J

[nem 2,019]

Jared, if I should make it out your way, I plan on getting some ink from you.

Nice work!

[nem 2,019]

Sean, congrats on the soon to be little man!

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Pretty much done working until next year!!

Only a couple meeting here and there, unless something breaks of course.

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Adrian, we need a "Meanwhile in Romania" picture.

LOL, that's a good one Peng !

[Adrian_D 520]

We don't get snow storms like that. Only the south of the country gets them

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Wish we had snow to go with the cold here in central PA.

[Godsmack 361]

Wish we had snow to go with the cold here in central PA.

I cant wait to see snow. I'm like a kid right now man.

J

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I am loving my new Danner boots.

One more thing to steal my money for the rest of my life, these things top all my other boots.

[j-roadtatts 1,129]

I know plenty of girls who would literally eat, drink, shower, and brush their teeth with semen.

Different folks, different strokes. My girl just gags like its gonna come out her nose.

Shit dude time to move to IN.

J

Got to any small town in the US and you'll find several of them.

My ex from SLC loved to gobble my go gurt

Damn I miss that head. Woman was a sexual fiend

Well she is an ex for a reason.

We all have at least one ex like that.

J

Yes we all have. Some memories will last forever. Same with the girls that loved it in the ass, It was fun but would I want to marry it?

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I think I got her to swallow some of it last night, but not by choice.

Thats two BJs in one week for those counting. Not bad for a married guy.

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Bust a nutt down her throat TOP

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PENG!

You got me sick!

threw up randomly for a few hours on wednesday.

On a side note, nothing back from my CT scan, but I have the new pleasure of a pinched nerve or 4 that is making my left arm and left leg burn and go numb. Shoulder is just killing me sore. 3 days off did nothing.

[j-roadtatts 1,129]

Jared, if I should make it out your way, I plan on getting some ink from you.

Nice work!

I look forward to it. As for any of you guys, don't hesitate to look me up if your in my area.

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PENG!

You got me sick!

threw up randomly for a few hours on wednesday.

I am not responsible for anything less than 7 hours of puking