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[///M5 2,833]

I'm with Ryan on the yuck

Supposed to run circles around the ZR-1 for less $$$.

I can spend $15K and have something that will run circles around any super car. . . It's still ugly to me.

We think alike, although you might have a harder time with $15k than my $30k if it is all aspects of driving. Surely can be done though. I just chose the route where I could use the stock tires, suspension, and pretty much everything else.

[///M5 2,833]

Kickin the JapCrapTOP

[dem beats 1,223]

No DIY examples but I've seen how these are built and have several friends which work with LED lighting..

Sourcing parts is EASY, except the radiator they need. But I'll think of something.

After seeing the vid I'm SOLD on this stuff.

A plank of Cu makes the best radiator you could need.

I'm sold on LED in general, but HID is easier to get in warmer color.

[dem beats 1,223]

I'm with Ryan on the yuck

Supposed to run circles around the ZR-1 for less $$$.

And looks like a fwd turd. Sure I am all for fast, but a car should stir the soul in that price range as well. If the only goal is to run circles around the ZR-1, but a 3 yr old Elise for $25k and spend $5k on some forced induction and you'll kill them both.

I can't fit in an elise. It may as well not have a windsheild as I would still have to put on gogles.

[cheese20323 13]

The problem occurs when people just put HID bulbs in halogen cases, they need projectors in order to not blind people

TRUTH !

But even projectors can blind people if they aren't aimed right.

Exactly, brother!

Normally if someone is going to spend extra and get the projectors too I hope they plan on aiming them

90% of people don't work logically

Mind you, after I upgraded my wiring it was clear that the right headlight was aimed like shit...

The worst ones are whe one light is brighter than the other.

[dem beats 1,223]

Wow, just about the worst factory lights I've seen.

How much power will those pull? Curious as I could use something better on the snowmobile

Much less than a bright halogen I would guess. It would also last longer and be more cold tolerent. Bright LED's would like the cold, you could probably get away with quite a bit less heat sinking.

[dem beats 1,223]

Baja designs makes a 10 LED light bar and it is sold with lots of lumens for only 42 wats.

Here are the specs from their web site.

Specifications

Dimming: Accessible Medium (Dust) and Strobe Modes

Total Lumens: 3500

Housing: Extruded Aluminum, Anodized, Laser Etched

Front Lens: Hardcoated Polycarbonate

Power Consumption: 42 watts

Input Voltage: 9-30 volts

Emitter: CREE XP-G LED, 5500 Kelvin

11.0” Long, 1.5” High, 3.0” Inches Deep

50,000 hour LED life expectancy

I would guess that you could make better. In fact if you use bigger/better reflectors you could get MUCH more throw/lumen. I'm almost 100% sure they are using cheep chinease low quality reflectors. If you threw in some larger parabola reflectors on them and squeezed more effective light from each LED you could do SO much more. If you stepped up to SSt LED's... mMMMmmmmm

[dem beats 1,223]

some flashlights are getting 1000 lumens from one SST-50 LED. And thats in a small overheat prone package with a limited power supply. If they put that driver tech into a vehicle aplication.

Think what you could do with proper 6-9 inch deep reflectors.

[dem beats 1,223]

LED's also won't go down from vibration. Even HID has vibration/impact limits.

solid state lighting is are sturdy as the case you put it in.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

[dem beats 1,223]

when you take into account the overal lux you can get from even 3-4 properly set up LED's it's pretty amazing.

HID or carbon arc sources can obliterate an LED in absolute brightness though if you have tons of powa to throw at them.

[Adrian_D 520]

I'm with Ryan on the yuck

Supposed to run circles around the ZR-1 for less $$$.

And looks like a fwd turd. Sure I am all for fast, but a car should stir the soul in that price range as well. If the only goal is to run circles around the ZR-1, but a 3 yr old Elise for $25k and spend $5k on some forced induction and you'll kill them both.

Oh dear, ELISE = wet dream for me !

[Adrian_D 520]

Same here, I don't want to tell him to kiss off though but would like to point him in a direction that actually makes some sense which is why I asked.

Phillips Silver Stars are the only thing I am currently comfortable with pointing him to.

I will add that unlike other asshats who want to do this I understand his motivation. He wants his baby daughter to be seen more. Bright shit will do that.

I HATE people with extremely bright headlights (The HID's).. especially on raised trucks... My car is low so i get these assholes headlights straight in my face and i hate it.. even when my windows are tinted at 20%

Same here. My last Mustang was the worst as it was so low, I was even in direct line with several normal vehicles.

It's even worse when they also have fog lights.

I use the brightest I can find on my Expy. I also however use yellowish tinted lights. You can look directly at the lights on my truck and even though they are bright they don't cause pail like the cooler blue lights. I really want HID off road lights, and I NEED new headlights as mine look like milk now. I won't change though unless I can get a warmer light though.

Eff HID, go LED Light bar. That's my next project. I don't want to spend $1k on a 40 inch light bar...plus I'll be able to build any width I want, any intensity, pattern etc etc. Probably won't look as nice but should perform close.

Here is the one Rigid Industries makes:

Wow, just about the worst factory lights I've seen.

How much power will those pull? Curious as I could use something better on the snowmobile

Depends on LED number and power.

For a 10-inch wide one you are looking at 20 led's and 1 or 3w / led. So 20-60w

You should have seem my lights on stock wiring...not much off from those.

[Adrian_D 520]

when you take into account the overal lux you can get from even 3-4 properly set up LED's it's pretty amazing.

LED power decision will be made mostly on trying to obtain the same lumen figures as the big manufacturers.

[Adrian_D 520]

No DIY examples but I've seen how these are built and have several friends which work with LED lighting..

Sourcing parts is EASY, except the radiator they need. But I'll think of something.

After seeing the vid I'm SOLD on this stuff.

A plank of Cu makes the best radiator you could need.

I'm sold on LED in general, but HID is easier to get in warmer color.

Color temperature will be a problem.

[Adrian_D 520]

Damn, spent almost 2 hours drawing up a 3-d model of my future oil radiator...

[dem beats 1,223]

No DIY examples but I've seen how these are built and have several friends which work with LED lighting..

Sourcing parts is EASY, except the radiator they need. But I'll think of something.

After seeing the vid I'm SOLD on this stuff.

A plank of Cu makes the best radiator you could need.

I'm sold on LED in general, but HID is easier to get in warmer color.

Color temperature will be a problem.

especially with the mega bright LED's. Most are blue or super white. Have you ever shined a super white bright high lux light into snow?

It's like a billion lasers sparkling at you.

[dem beats 1,223]

you could use a verry subtle tint to the lens?

It would cost some lumens, but might be worth it. You never know untill it's in practice and in use.

[///M5 2,833]

I'm with Ryan on the yuck

Supposed to run circles around the ZR-1 for less $$$.

And looks like a fwd turd. Sure I am all for fast, but a car should stir the soul in that price range as well. If the only goal is to run circles around the ZR-1, but a 3 yr old Elise for $25k and spend $5k on some forced induction and you'll kill them both.

I can't fit in an elise. It may as well not have a windsheild as I would still have to put on gogles.

Okay, fine. You will fit in a Noble which may be similar money, but is WAY more of a car for those goals.

[dem beats 1,223]

I wouldn't mind an m600 in the stable. I think those are ~300k.

I have no idea about price/availability of the older units though.

[dem beats 1,223]

If I'm not the devil's advocate I'm not doing my job.

I do love the lotus. They are so sweet.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Same here, I don't want to tell him to kiss off though but would like to point him in a direction that actually makes some sense which is why I asked.

Phillips Silver Stars are the only thing I am currently comfortable with pointing him to.

I will add that unlike other asshats who want to do this I understand his motivation. He wants his baby daughter to be seen more. Bright shit will do that.

I HATE people with extremely bright headlights (The HID's).. especially on raised trucks... My car is low so i get these assholes headlights straight in my face and i hate it.. even when my windows are tinted at 20%

Same here. My last Mustang was the worst as it was so low, I was even in direct line with several normal vehicles.

It's even worse when they also have fog lights.

I use the brightest I can find on my Expy. I also however use yellowish tinted lights. You can look directly at the lights on my truck and even though they are bright they don't cause pail like the cooler blue lights. I really want HID off road lights, and I NEED new headlights as mine look like milk now. I won't change though unless I can get a warmer light though.

Eff HID, go LED Light bar. That's my next project. I don't want to spend $1k on a 40 inch light bar...plus I'll be able to build any width I want, any intensity, pattern etc etc. Probably won't look as nice but should perform close.

Here is the one Rigid Industries makes:

Your's better be red and make a "swish swish" sound.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

I'm with Ryan on the yuck

Supposed to run circles around the ZR-1 for less $$$.

And looks like a fwd turd. Sure I am all for fast, but a car should stir the soul in that price range as well. If the only goal is to run circles around the ZR-1, but a 3 yr old Elise for $25k and spend $5k on some forced induction and you'll kill them both.

And a new transmission with taller gearing.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

[dem beats 1,223]

^----rofl