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Duke officials have canceled the school's tailgate parties after the underage sibling of a student was found passed out drunk in a Porta-Potty.

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# Matt Lauer's blockbuster interview with George W. Bush last night boosted NBC all the way up to fourth place in the ratings for that hour, with less than half as many viewers as Dancing With the Stars. "The Bush interview also drew lower demo numbers than the program that normally airs in that time period on NBC, 'Chuck,'" says TVNewser.

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At the risk of sounding like a tea party a hole, I think hypocrisy is exactly what we need in the way I read you using it. If you meant bigots talking about freedom for men, then you got me, you’re right, they were the other bad form of hypocrisy.

If anything at all our governmental system was designed to slow down the flow of government expansion. The old adage of freedom being the distance between my fist and your chin is where this can be seen blatantly. The tea party in general has gone overboard though and made a fool of themselves. Jefferson was an amazing thinker along with many “founding fathers”. The thing is, no matter how perfect the ideal is, it’s been corrupted. I don’t think George Washington or Lincoln would be even close to relevant in todays world. The tea party(or rather the public face of) has basically made a religion out of the people and wipped their ass with what was intended when our country was formed.

Special interest groups and other forms of corruption though have tainted the idea of freedom and infrastructure for all Americans. Now some Americans get more infrastructure than others. Some have more freedoms than others. On an individual level it makes sense to forge your own path and make your own agreements and contracts. In a group though the intent is lost. It’s like ordering a pizza. You will never make everyone happy. Someone won’t like some aspect of what they are given. Then everyone else not invited to the party will look to that group with disdain, pity, or worst of all as an opportunity to control a group.

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Ain't no party like my Nana's tea party.

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Joo get a job yet?

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watcha think? My link

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A Valley community's decision to change the way trash is picked up provided further proof of how deeply the nation's anti-government, "tea party"-fueled sentiment is running.

A decision by the Fountain Hills Town Council to hire a single trash hauler and begin a curbside recycling program has been met with angry protests from residents who accuse town leaders of overstepping their bounds and taking a leap toward socialism.

Some even likened it to "Obamacare" for garbage, calling it "trashcare."

An Arizona website affiliated with the Alexandria, Va.,-based Campaign for Liberty, azc4l.com, features an intimidating, cigar-chomping man standing in front of the town's famous fountain next to a story about the issue.

And last week, a flier was circulated around Fountain Hills with an ominous icon and the phrase, "The Hills Will Have Eyes," and that claimed the "Fountain Hills Green Police" checked residents' garbage and recyclables, and as a result, "you are wanted for questioning."

On Thursday, a divided council approved a five-year contract with Allied Waste Services to be the single hauler and begin a recycling program. Residents currently can choose among five haulers and the town has no curbside recycling.

That single issue generated a nearly five-hour public hearing and council debate that went past midnight.

Fountain Hills Mayor Jay Schlum believes the angry reaction, which also included e-mails to the mayor and council, was fueled by this year's election.

"I don't think people would have been as on edge had it not been following one of the more volatile elections we've had in our country's history, at least as far as I've been around," he said. "But that doesn't mean what they brought up isn't valid or anything. It just added more heat to those arguments."

Peter Bardow, an opponent, said the issue isn't about politics, but about taking away his and other residents' right to choose their own trash hauler. "I feel like you're forcing homeowners-association regulation and homeowners-association enforcement on me," he said.

Fountain Hills is home to two tea-party groups - Fountain Hills Tea Party and Fountain Hills Tea Party Patriots.

Many opponents were energized by this week's election in which Republicans made significant gains in congressional and state races. They related the local proposal to what they see as increasing government control under President Barack Obama's administration.

The Fountain Hills Tea Party posted this announcement on its website in advance of Thursday's meeting: "7 people will decide who will provide your trash collection services and take away your ability to choose that on your own. If you don't like government telling you what to do, show up at the meeting and voice your opposition. If it's not broken, don't let government try to fix it."

The Fountain Hills Tea Party and Arizona Campaign for Liberty could not be reached for further comment. Schlum believes the continuing weakness in the economy played a role in the opposition.

"There are a lot of things that contribute to where people are coming from," he said. "These days you've got to respect that, and at the same time there's personal responsibility and you want to make sure people aren't being threatening or hostile, or you hope that's not the case."

Councilwoman Ginny Dickey, who also supported the measure, said she felt that her motivations were especially questioned because she is the only Democratic council member and worked for seven years at the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.

"It seems counterintuitive, but in order for this proposal to pass, I believe I had to downplay the benefits of recycling," she said. "When ideology prevents rational discussion of a really pretty mundane topic, trash, there is no perspective. Everything is suspect, which paralyzes us."

lol, Sheriff Joe lives in Fountain Hills

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Sean the kitchen looks very nice!

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How was your trip?

Me?

The trip was great spent the weekend in Niagara Falls Canada. A lot has changed since I was there last. They had a Christmas light lighting concert Saturday and that was very nice.

Actually was referring to Peng's Acid adventure, but would have asked had I known you went on a trip. That's someplace I've never been and would like to go.

If you decide to go there let me know. I can fill you in on the Canadian side and US side of the Falls. I am also pretty knowledgable on Buffalo.

J

I went through Buffalo rather than going through at Niagara. I plan on going back at some point J so what are some things that may help make my stay better?

I can be there in just under 4hrs too.

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Picture from our room at night. Not the best quality, but looks nice.

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Saturday night was their Christmas lighting ceremony. Needless to say I am ready for Christmas after that.

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How was your trip?

Me?

The trip was great spent the weekend in Niagara Falls Canada. A lot has changed since I was there last. They had a Christmas light lighting concert Saturday and that was very nice.

Actually was referring to Peng's Acid adventure, but would have asked had I known you went on a trip. That's someplace I've never been and would like to go.

If you decide to go there let me know. I can fill you in on the Canadian side and US side of the Falls. I am also pretty knowledgable on Buffalo.

J

I went through Buffalo rather than going through at Niagara. I plan on going back at some point J so what are some things that may help make my stay better?

I can be there in just under 4hrs too.

Well what are your goals of your next trip? Age, sex, interests and number of people?

This information will help alot. Also are you wanting to stick to NF, or are you wanting to see Buffalo too?

First thing I will tell you, go over the Rainbow bridge in Niagara Falls, not the Peace Bridge in Buffalo. That bridge can have you stuck for HOURS if the traffic gets bad, and while the drive is a bit longer going over the Rainbow bridge, you get to see Grand Island, drive over the Niagara River, and see the Niagara Gorge from above which is REALLY fun. It also gives you some different vantages of the Rainbow Falls (US side) and the Horseshoe Falls (Canadian side). When its frozen over (if you can tolerate the cold) its fun to walk over the bridge. Its REALLY awe inspiring.

J

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I fully agree that the tools don't make the mechanic, but a mechanic appreciates good tools.

Speaking of which I finally used the UniSaw this weekend for something useful.

Did you cut a stack of toothpicks?

BIG toothpicks.

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*squints*

Is that a Samsung oven?

shirley not

Electrolux

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Sean the kitchen looks very nice!

Thank you!

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How was your trip?

Me?

The trip was great spent the weekend in Niagara Falls Canada. A lot has changed since I was there last. They had a Christmas light lighting concert Saturday and that was very nice.

Actually was referring to Peng's Acid adventure, but would have asked had I known you went on a trip. That's someplace I've never been and would like to go.

If you decide to go there let me know. I can fill you in on the Canadian side and US side of the Falls. I am also pretty knowledgable on Buffalo.

J

I went through Buffalo rather than going through at Niagara. I plan on going back at some point J so what are some things that may help make my stay better?

I can be there in just under 4hrs too.

Well what are your goals of your next trip? Age, sex, interests and number of people?

This information will help alot. Also are you wanting to stick to NF, or are you wanting to see Buffalo too?

First thing I will tell you, go over the Rainbow bridge in Niagara Falls, not the Peace Bridge in Buffalo. That bridge can have you stuck for HOURS if the traffic gets bad, and while the drive is a bit longer going over the Rainbow bridge, you get to see Grand Island, drive over the Niagara River, and see the Niagara Gorge from above which is REALLY fun. It also gives you some different vantages of the Rainbow Falls (US side) and the Horseshoe Falls (Canadian side). When its frozen over (if you can tolerate the cold) its fun to walk over the bridge. Its REALLY awe inspiring.

J

The wife and I walked across the bridge to the US side, the Canadain side is much nicer and cleaner. We are thinking of making a trip up when things are frozen maybe end of January not sure, but we will be taking my kids so that will be 4 of us.

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feels good to get things sold

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Morning iHopin

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You sold the Evo Casey?

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Nevermind I just saw your component sale

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You sold the Evo Casey?

i should