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i accomplished nothing today

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

I never left the apartment. The door is still locked from last night.

[KU40 173]

It speaks to the people who are jealous of others who have worked harder, smarter or both to get where they are. It says to the upper percentage sector that since you pay for 50% of the taxes of the entire country, and the rest of the country does not feel they should carry their weight, your taxes have to increase to make up for it. Take even more from the rich to feed the rest.

Thats Gold Jerry!

I'm not sure I understand if you were implying that I was jealous of the richer folks? I'm not. That's not why I think it's ok for them to pay more taxes. I just don't think they generally work 10 times harder to get their 10 times pay. If they earned it through businesses it was generally because they were forward thinkers, not because they shoveled more coal out of the mine per day than another guy. Granted this then gets into semantics on how you weigh physical work vs. mental work, but in my 5 years at a tire shop I was more exhausted after every day working there than I am any day at my current desk job making 2.5x the money. But even if you get to the top of the company, you still need those bottom guys or else you'd be doing it. So you can't take them for granted and better realize they're just as important to the company as you are.

Not to mention I think you have to look at how much our average person spends vs. how much it takes to live. I just read that the average person makes 32k a year, which puts them into the 25% tax bracket. That's about 8000 per year in taxes. If you want to tax them the same as the rich folks, or even get them close, you'll probably be in the 33% bracket, or almost 11,000 per year. That's 3,000 out of the average person's pocket per year. That's about a whole year's worth of food to me, or 3/4 of a year of rent. But to a person making a million a year, that's a pair of shoes or a suit. If people are already foreclosing on their houses, having to work during retirement, etc., what's it going to be like then? Granted a lot of that was due to stupid people overspending, but that's another issue.

All I know is if I made a million dollars a year, I sure as hell wouldn't be complaining about paying an extra 10% in taxes. Maybe that's just me. Although i would mind if that extra taxes went to feeding the lazy bums who think they're too good to work the menial jobs that the illegal immigrants are now working even though they probably dropped out of high school so that they could do drugs all day or sit in their trailer.

[MKader17 332]

Obama is spewing Bullshit... I'm sorry

If he raises taxes for people/companies only making over $250,000 whats going to happen? The companies are going to pass their losses on to the lesser people which means the people that make less than 250k will feel the tax.

*disclaimer- McCain is spewing some bullshit too lol not trying to be bias*

It's ok to be bias. feel free to have your opinion.

That may be true and it may not. One good thing about our society is that if companies raise prices to make up for losses, people will find the product cheaper from another company, perhaps a smaller, start-up type place. Or mom and pop shop. Which that would be good for us. But if the big company has a large market share or near monopoly that probably wouldn't happen. People would just bitch and moan about it.

But really I think it's a decent idea. People who make that much money deserve it, IMO. Are they working a lot harder than you/me to earn 100 times the pay? In 99% of cases, no. But for companies I think it's tough. We don't want to penalize those that expand and grow because that's what the market is all about. But then it's those companies that make that much just by having a huge market share or what have you and gouge the consumer that I hate.

I have this thing about always seeing situations from both sides and hardly ever being able to decide which is better. It's a curse.

250k is way too low. Go out and survey what small businesses make and really hard working individuals. When you put your heart and soul into something versus someone who glides by you shouldn't have to pay a tax penalty. These are NOT the people we want to demotivate. The end result will be that everyone suffers as all goods will end up coming from overseas someplace if we demotivate the wrong sector.

you may be right about that. 250k is too low. And no I wouldn't want to demotivate people, the last thing I would want is more outsourcing and importing.

It speaks to the people who are jealous of others who have worked harder, smarter or both to get where they are. It says to the upper percentage sector that since you pay for 50% of the taxes of the entire country, and the rest of the country does not feel they should carry their weight, your taxes have to increase to make up for it. Take even more from the rich to feed the rest.

Thats Gold Jerry!

The thing about rich people is that they are smart. They find loop holes through personal corporations and tax breaks. While most middle and lower class bend over and take it from the gov't, the rich accept then work diligently to work around it. and kudos to them for that, because unlike like normal Americans they are not filled with apathy.

So you can raise taxes but it really won't hurt them that bad.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

It speaks to the people who are jealous of others who have worked harder, smarter or both to get where they are. It says to the upper percentage sector that since you pay for 50% of the taxes of the entire country, and the rest of the country does not feel they should carry their weight, your taxes have to increase to make up for it. Take even more from the rich to feed the rest.

Thats Gold Jerry!

All I know is if I made a million dollars a year, I sure as hell wouldn't be complaining about paying an extra 10% in taxes. Maybe that's just me. Although i would mind if that extra taxes went to feeding the lazy bums who think they're too good to work the menial jobs that the illegal immigrants are now working even though they probably dropped out of high school so that they could do drugs all day or sit in their trailer.

I know I'd raise hell about it. Its already 35% for $357,701+ for single person. Another 10% increase means you're "only" getting 550,000 year

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

Obama is spewing Bullshit... I'm sorry

If he raises taxes for people/companies only making over $250,000 whats going to happen? The companies are going to pass their losses on to the lesser people which means the people that make less than 250k will feel the tax.

*disclaimer- McCain is spewing some bullshit too lol not trying to be bias*

It's ok to be bias. feel free to have your opinion.

That may be true and it may not. One good thing about our society is that if companies raise prices to make up for losses, people will find the product cheaper from another company, perhaps a smaller, start-up type place. Or mom and pop shop. Which that would be good for us. But if the big company has a large market share or near monopoly that probably wouldn't happen. People would just bitch and moan about it.

But really I think it's a decent idea. People who make that much money deserve it, IMO. Are they working a lot harder than you/me to earn 100 times the pay? In 99% of cases, no. But for companies I think it's tough. We don't want to penalize those that expand and grow because that's what the market is all about. But then it's those companies that make that much just by having a huge market share or what have you and gouge the consumer that I hate.

I have this thing about always seeing situations from both sides and hardly ever being able to decide which is better. It's a curse.

250k is way too low. Go out and survey what small businesses make and really hard working individuals. When you put your heart and soul into something versus someone who glides by you shouldn't have to pay a tax penalty. These are NOT the people we want to demotivate. The end result will be that everyone suffers as all goods will end up coming from overseas someplace if we demotivate the wrong sector.

you may be right about that. 250k is too low. And no I wouldn't want to demotivate people, the last thing I would want is more outsourcing and importing.

It speaks to the people who are jealous of others who have worked harder, smarter or both to get where they are. It says to the upper percentage sector that since you pay for 50% of the taxes of the entire country, and the rest of the country does not feel they should carry their weight, your taxes have to increase to make up for it. Take even more from the rich to feed the rest.

Thats Gold Jerry!

The thing about rich people is that they are smart. They find loop holes through personal corporations and tax breaks.

Thats because the basis of the US Tax Code was written to help big business.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

few things can rival the pleasure caused by a properly placed qtip

*melts*

[Acidburn 10]

few things can rival the pleasure caused by a properly placed qtip

*melts*

urethra?

[topgun 262]

Lucky SOB.

drinky times tonight

Same here... Still have class and work tomorrow though.

[Duran 387]

few things can rival the pleasure caused by a properly placed qtip

*melts*

urethra?

HAHA! OUCH!!!!!

[topgun 262]

Sam Adams Octoberfest isn't that bad of beer. Not the greatest, but a nice change.

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

first off no, second off wtf

[topgun 262]

Ok, so where the hell is a properly placed q-tip 'placed'?

*I'm gonna regret asking this one...*

[Duran 387]

Sam Adams Octoberfest isn't that bad of beer. Not the greatest, but a nice change.

I'm not even old enough to frekin' vote!

[topgun 262]

Sam Adams Octoberfest isn't that bad of beer. Not the greatest, but a nice change.

I'm not even old enough to frekin' vote!

So? Never stopped anyone from drinking, sure didn't for me.

[Duran 387]

Sam Adams Octoberfest isn't that bad of beer. Not the greatest, but a nice change.

I'm not even old enough to frekin' vote!

So? Never stopped anyone from drinking, sure didn't for me.

I used to, but I got in a little trouble for it a while ago. So I'm going to abstain until I'm legal.

[topgun 262]

Sam Adams Octoberfest isn't that bad of beer. Not the greatest, but a nice change.

I'm not even old enough to frekin' vote!

So? Never stopped anyone from drinking, sure didn't for me.

I used to, but I got in a little trouble for it a while ago. So I'm going to abstain until I'm legal.

I'm sure that'll get revised to 'untill I'm in college'.

[Duran 387]

Sam Adams Octoberfest isn't that bad of beer. Not the greatest, but a nice change.

I'm not even old enough to frekin' vote!

So? Never stopped anyone from drinking, sure didn't for me.

I used to, but I got in a little trouble for it a while ago. So I'm going to abstain until I'm legal.

I'm sure that'll get revised to 'untill I'm in college'.

I have that feeling as well, but I would rather not. I used to do it at home, when my parents were there, they took car keys away and such, but the one time I did it outside the house It ended with my grandparents picking my up at my ex girlfriends house still totally trashed, they were soooo disappointed in me.

[///M5 2,833]

and what are u doing up so late?

I am still in CA

[///M5 2,833]

dear god. I'm so tired. Sean, what would you recomend for a really inexpencive coffee set up? I know you mentioned a site one time...

What is inexpensive?

Ha.

Well what I want is to be able to pull quite a few ounces a day. I would probably use it daily. Some days several times. I would also assume the folks I live with would like to have some too. I'm not really sure what I should expect to spend 1,000, 700, 500?

I am learning that the grinder is the one thing you cannot skimp on.

How easy to use?

The Rancilio Silvia is a good budget machine, but really benefits from a grinder like the Macap Stepless. Near $1k for the combo.

Thanks! I will look into those and go from there.

A call to Chris's coffee is a logical step.

[///M5 2,833]

http://jalopnik.com/5060168/stuart-appleby...-in-full-detail

best link you've ever posted

[///M5 2,833]

what's with the sudden influx of ROE/SMD people the last couple days?

Is that why there are so many stupid posts

[///M5 2,833]

Anyone here have the abilities to test speakers and get the T/S parameters? I'd be willing to send them a box of 10 PA drivers (to keep) if they would give me the T/S and freq response results on them...

yes and no. Not at the moment as I am not home and I don't have an analyzer with a generator sitting there daily, but it is rather possible.

[///M5 2,833]

If I wanted a CB750 I'd have my pick of them right about now...close to a dozen for sale locally. Don't want to go bigger than the 550 though

what are the 750's going for?

[///M5 2,833]

what's with the sudden influx of ROE/SMD people the last couple days?

And have you noticed their questions are all pretty much the same..."I want to be really loud with lots of SQ"...

Which equates to, I am a heterosexual male and I want to suck dick