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[Penguin4x4 1,761]

Should be able to get a car seat in that

[dem beats 1,223]

Sears seams to want a bit more than what the average going price for those are. It would almost be worth going to chicago area to find one and then drive it back.

45K+ seams like a bit too much. I do usualy see <2005's out there though.

[dem beats 1,223]

Should be able to get a car seat in that

now that is bling.

[///M5 2,833]

Sears seams to want a bit more than what the average going price for those are. It would almost be worth going to chicago area to find one and then drive it back.

45K+ seams like a bit too much. I do usualy see <2005's out there though.

That is their asking price, they like to negotiate. I bought the W's Audi there, asking $22k paid $16k

I was just ribbing you before

[///M5 2,833]

Should be able to get a car seat in that

Even my baby

[dem beats 1,223]

Sears seams to want a bit more than what the average going price for those are. It would almost be worth going to chicago area to find one and then drive it back.

45K+ seams like a bit too much. I do usualy see <2005's out there though.

That is their asking price, they like to negotiate. I bought the W's Audi there, asking $22k paid $16k

I was just ribbing you before

I can't beleive they would move that much. Maybe if we both walked in and asked for a double buy discount we could get them to drop trou and take it?

Now I want ribs and a new Benz though..

Sean either you are a really bad influence or a really good one.

another car I have had in my mind for a while is the cl600's. That V-12 is sexy.

[dem beats 1,223]

often the sales guys think I'm some entripeneur or doctor, and they get pissed when I know the stats better than them, and I don't shave so I look so much older. Then they find out I'm under 30 and they get all pissy.

[JimJ 11]

often the sales guys think I'm some entripeneur or doctor, and they get pissed when I know the stats better than them, and I don't shave so I look so much older. Then they find out I'm under 30 and they get all pissy.

I love when that happens

Especially if I talk with people over the phone before meeting them...apparently, my voice adds 10 years

[///M5 2,833]

Sears seams to want a bit more than what the average going price for those are. It would almost be worth going to chicago area to find one and then drive it back.

45K+ seams like a bit too much. I do usualy see <2005's out there though.

That is their asking price, they like to negotiate. I bought the W's Audi there, asking $22k paid $16k

I was just ribbing you before

I can't beleive they would move that much. Maybe if we both walked in and asked for a double buy discount we could get them to drop trou and take it?

Now I want ribs and a new Benz though..

Sean either you are a really bad influence or a really good one.

another car I have had in my mind for a while is the cl600's. That V-12 is sexy.

Part of my problem with MB is the CL600. My buddy bought one new, within 2 years before they finally lemoned the car out, his fix sheet was more than 26 pages long. It never went more than 3 days without some sort of warning light coming on. No exaggeration, this is one of my best friends and of course it has soured me on the Merc.

My other issue with the 55 series motors, my sister and her husband bought a CL55 from the local MB dealer. They put in the offer that it had to pass an inspection by a third party. After taking the car home, they brought it to my mechanic. 2 months out of warranty, but it needed $18k in repairs including a new supercharger. Needless to say they returned the car to the dealer.

[///M5 2,833]

Real sales people don't care about age, although I like the ones that do as I know it means when it comes to negotiating I am going to win.

[///M5 2,833]

And yes negotiating is a win-lose prospect. Either they take what I am willing or I don't buy.

[///M5 2,833]

I feel I have a baby face, but Tom, Ryan, Ryan, Kent would probably be a better judge of that.

[dem beats 1,223]

I have become terrible at negotiation. Since I left sales, I fell into some hum drum lifestyle and end up paying list or just a bit under. I never pay more than the figure I have in my head though. I learned that lesson when I was a kid.

The W is HORRIBLE. She refuses to even let me haggle, I did help her buy her first car however. The cobalt and we paid a good deal under sticker, but we could have still done better, but she liked this sales guy.

[JimJ 11]

I never pay more than the figure I have in my head though. I learned that lesson when I was a kid.

I have a ten-spot and a bucket of chicken in my head.

[dem beats 1,223]

I feel I have a baby face, but Tom, Ryan, Ryan, Kent would probably be a better judge of that.

I do too when I shave!

I let the beard stay out 80% of the time. I have an odd pattern in the beard that makes a swirling pattern. Looks like a hurricaine and adds 10 years to my look. Also when someone in sales sees a guy with a beard but in dress clothes, they don't know what to think. Even worse when I'm in a suite, riding the 954, and then ask for the sedans that look innocent but hide big v-8's.

I test sat in the g-8

What shit....

But I did see.... get this.... the v-10 s6

I was going to mention it to you Sean. Verry low miles and only 50k

[dem beats 1,223]

Sears seams to want a bit more than what the average going price for those are. It would almost be worth going to chicago area to find one and then drive it back.

45K+ seams like a bit too much. I do usualy see <2005's out there though.

That is their asking price, they like to negotiate. I bought the W's Audi there, asking $22k paid $16k

I was just ribbing you before

I can't beleive they would move that much. Maybe if we both walked in and asked for a double buy discount we could get them to drop trou and take it?

Now I want ribs and a new Benz though..

Sean either you are a really bad influence or a really good one.

another car I have had in my mind for a while is the cl600's. That V-12 is sexy.

Part of my problem with MB is the CL600. My buddy bought one new, within 2 years before they finally lemoned the car out, his fix sheet was more than 26 pages long. It never went more than 3 days without some sort of warning light coming on. No exaggeration, this is one of my best friends and of course it has soured me on the Merc.

My other issue with the 55 series motors, my sister and her husband bought a CL55 from the local MB dealer. They put in the offer that it had to pass an inspection by a third party. After taking the car home, they brought it to my mechanic. 2 months out of warranty, but it needed $18k in repairs including a new supercharger. Needless to say they returned the car to the dealer.

I was thinking either the cl600 with the bi turbo from 04-05, or maybe the older NA ones. But that is GOOD infromation. Thanks.

It would be pretty trick to have a v-12. That's a lot of engine.

[dem beats 1,223]

Sean have you heard or dealt with Craig-Hollum ever?

[dem beats 1,223]

I never pay more than the figure I have in my head though. I learned that lesson when I was a kid.

I have a ten-spot and a bucket of chicken in my head.

rofl.

You crack me up Jim.

I still say you should be a hip hop producer and quit this school thing. You could be like diidy and bave billions.

[Acidburn 10]

I was actually talking about the newer CTS, there is just a shit-ton of random buttons and crap

and fyi, that's not mine, it's a Charger

Didn't realize that was a Charger and I know you were making the opposite point. My comment was more on the lines. The older CTS dash doesn't look like a modern car, all hard edges. Even the door arm rests look like 1960.

Looks like the 80's to me

Mid 50's - Early 60's cars had gorgeous interiors

[Acidburn 10]

The Fiyachicken took its maiden voyage yesterday. Just to the alignment shop and back.

Nice!

and a review!

[dem beats 1,223]

sold the antique wood.

I will be getting an angle grinder and stone cutting disk for table #2. Then I can slavage some nicer peices of slate in bigger forms.

[dem beats 1,223]

I feel I have a baby face, but Tom, Ryan, Ryan, Kent would probably be a better judge of that.

I do too when I shave!

I let the beard stay out 80% of the time. I have an odd pattern in the beard that makes a swirling pattern. Looks like a hurricaine and adds 10 years to my look. Also when someone in sales sees a guy with a beard but in dress clothes, they don't know what to think. Even worse when I'm in a suite, riding the 954, and then ask for the sedans that look innocent but hide big v-8's.

I test sat in the g-8

What shit....

But I did see.... get this.... the v-10 s6

I was going to mention it to you Sean. Verry low miles and only 50k

I'm an idiot only 17,000 miles.

http://www.walser.com/ou/walser-corporate/..._used_inventory

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Regrettably the 4.0L V8 that BMW makes is a wreck.

I'll go look at an older E55, but I am not sure what I gain over my current ride.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u...=&cardist=2

Too many miles, but it is at the stealership where the 2005 E55 that I am going to drive is so I will peak at it.

My other issue with age is that work is leasing me the car...although if I find something I really love that is older I can get out of that and have them give me some cash.

Our BMW master mechanic for the 528i has just shy of 200k on his 2000 540i, no major problems to report that I know of. My feelings with the elder E55 is the durability and reliability, not to mention lower cost. We might be able to find a low miles one near you. Not saying anything is wrong with the 2005 E55, as it is damn strong, just thought I would throw out the earlier model because I know it is a tank.

[dem beats 1,223]

do you work for a dealer Aaron?

[///M5 2,833]

I have become terrible at negotiation. Since I left sales, I fell into some hum drum lifestyle and end up paying list or just a bit under. I never pay more than the figure I have in my head though. I learned that lesson when I was a kid.

The W is HORRIBLE. She refuses to even let me haggle, I did help her buy her first car however. The cobalt and we paid a good deal under sticker, but we could have still done better, but she liked this sales guy.

My w doesn't get to come along...not even if the car is for her. She gets her pick, but that doesn't mean she gets to see what I buy. I bought the Audi without her ever seeing it. She did request, A6, Silver, Loaded in the body style she got so everything on her list was taken care of. She actually didn't even know we were seriously looking yet.