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[///M5 2,833]

Reallly loud people in the hotel room next to me. All 10 of them...I am not normally the guy who complains, but when I try to sleep they better shut the eff up.

[topgun 262]

You should have gone to a smaller school then. Small classes = hands on discussion, instead of lecture. By default it makes it a lot more hands on (not in the literal sense). Hell Physics is rather theoretical, but I made it through by discussing practical applications to understand really how it worked. Thank god for the profs I had access to though otherwise it would have been tough. Of course you get rather personal instruction when your senior year major classes averaged 4 people and they were taught by a prof as there is no grad school associated.

Now if I could have classes where we actually discussed real world applications and studied them as would be used in practice as an engineer, I think I would enjoy that quite a bit more, but not so much.

It wasn't that it was based on real world applications but when you have profs who understand that you need to learn by applying something it makes it easier for them to cater to you. Having more personal time with the professors was the real key probably.

You mean everyone doesn't learn by assigning problem after problem from a text book and doing it over and over?

[Acidburn 10]

blue, orange, yellow, black, blue, green, yellow, orange, orange

[Acidburn 10]

party

[///M5 2,833]

Part of the problem I would think is that hands-on is simply getting harder to do in something like EE these days. You could do surface-mount stuff hands on, but anything much smaller than that and you're into some pretty specialized stuff...

Very true, but I think all the more basic shit like circuit theory one could all be taught as a 2 semester hands on lab and lecture rolled into one. Then again a lot of EE students I know don't give a shit about hands on, hell a lot of them couldn't wire a f'ing light switch if you told them to.

So many people in my circuits lab last semester couldn't figure out how to wire up a circuit of 5-6 components with the diagram right in front of them. 'Twas ridiculous.

I'd like to see them solder

[///M5 2,833]

You should have gone to a smaller school then. Small classes = hands on discussion, instead of lecture. By default it makes it a lot more hands on (not in the literal sense). Hell Physics is rather theoretical, but I made it through by discussing practical applications to understand really how it worked. Thank god for the profs I had access to though otherwise it would have been tough. Of course you get rather personal instruction when your senior year major classes averaged 4 people and they were taught by a prof as there is no grad school associated.

Now if I could have classes where we actually discussed real world applications and studied them as would be used in practice as an engineer, I think I would enjoy that quite a bit more, but not so much.

It wasn't that it was based on real world applications but when you have profs who understand that you need to learn by applying something it makes it easier for them to cater to you. Having more personal time with the professors was the real key probably.

You mean everyone doesn't learn by assigning problem after problem from a text book and doing it over and over?

Definitely part of my problem, I hate assignments and would plagiarize therefore to learn I needed to cram which meant some hands on time.

[///M5 2,833]

tops

[///M5 2,833]

Busy in here. You guys must all be waiting for SM to unveil the BTL's

[topgun 262]

You should have gone to a smaller school then. Small classes = hands on discussion, instead of lecture. By default it makes it a lot more hands on (not in the literal sense). Hell Physics is rather theoretical, but I made it through by discussing practical applications to understand really how it worked. Thank god for the profs I had access to though otherwise it would have been tough. Of course you get rather personal instruction when your senior year major classes averaged 4 people and they were taught by a prof as there is no grad school associated.

Now if I could have classes where we actually discussed real world applications and studied them as would be used in practice as an engineer, I think I would enjoy that quite a bit more, but not so much.

It wasn't that it was based on real world applications but when you have profs who understand that you need to learn by applying something it makes it easier for them to cater to you. Having more personal time with the professors was the real key probably.

You mean everyone doesn't learn by assigning problem after problem from a text book and doing it over and over?

Definitely part of my problem, I hate assignments and would plagiarize therefore to learn I needed to cram which meant some hands on time.

Oh lord this sounds familiar.

[Acidburn 10]

You should have gone to a smaller school then. Small classes = hands on discussion, instead of lecture. By default it makes it a lot more hands on (not in the literal sense). Hell Physics is rather theoretical, but I made it through by discussing practical applications to understand really how it worked. Thank god for the profs I had access to though otherwise it would have been tough. Of course you get rather personal instruction when your senior year major classes averaged 4 people and they were taught by a prof as there is no grad school associated.

Now if I could have classes where we actually discussed real world applications and studied them as would be used in practice as an engineer, I think I would enjoy that quite a bit more, but not so much.

It wasn't that it was based on real world applications but when you have profs who understand that you need to learn by applying something it makes it easier for them to cater to you. Having more personal time with the professors was the real key probably.

You mean everyone doesn't learn by assigning problem after problem from a text book and doing it over and over?

speaking of, I really ought to start on my hw tonight....

[Acidburn 10]

Part of the problem I would think is that hands-on is simply getting harder to do in something like EE these days. You could do surface-mount stuff hands on, but anything much smaller than that and you're into some pretty specialized stuff...

Very true, but I think all the more basic shit like circuit theory one could all be taught as a 2 semester hands on lab and lecture rolled into one. Then again a lot of EE students I know don't give a shit about hands on, hell a lot of them couldn't wire a f'ing light switch if you told them to.

So many people in my circuits lab last semester couldn't figure out how to wire up a circuit of 5-6 components with the diagram right in front of them. 'Twas ridiculous.

I'd like to see them solder

oh god... frightening

[JimJ 11]

Oh, yes, my world revolves around that.

[topgun 262]

Busy in here. You guys must all be waiting for SM to unveil the BTL's

They are unveiling the BTL's? Hmm, maybe I ought to venture out into the rest of the forum more often....

Naaa, it scares me sometimes.

[Acidburn 10]

Busy in here. You guys must all be waiting for SM to unveil the BTL's

how did you know?

[todd.brust 29]

Part of the problem I would think is that hands-on is simply getting harder to do in something like EE these days. You could do surface-mount stuff hands on, but anything much smaller than that and you're into some pretty specialized stuff...

Very true, but I think all the more basic chit like circuit theory one could all be taught as a 2 semester hands on lab and lecture rolled into one. Then again a lot of EE students I know don't give a chit about hands on, hell a lot of them couldn't wire a f'ing light switch if you told them to.

So many people in my circuits lab last semester couldn't figure out how to wire up a circuit of 5-6 components with the diagram right in front of them. 'Twas ridiculous.

I'd like to see them solder

Serious....LOL AHAhAHAHAHA

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

You mean everyone doesn't learn by assigning problem after problem from a text book and doing it over and over?

Only way I ever learned math

[///M5 2,833]

I even read the whole thread.

**obviously procrastinating

[Penguin4x4 1,761]

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Works a hell of a lot easier then cramming for me

[todd.brust 29]

You should have gone to a smaller school then. Small classes = hands on discussion, instead of lecture. By default it makes it a lot more hands on (not in the literal sense). Hell Physics is rather theoretical, but I made it through by discussing practical applications to understand really how it worked. Thank god for the profs I had access to though otherwise it would have been tough. Of course you get rather personal instruction when your senior year major classes averaged 4 people and they were taught by a prof as there is no grad school associated.

Now if I could have classes where we actually discussed real world applications and studied them as would be used in practice as an engineer, I think I would enjoy that quite a bit more, but not so much.

It wasn't that it was based on real world applications but when you have profs who understand that you need to learn by applying something it makes it easier for them to cater to you. Having more personal time with the professors was the real key probably.

You mean everyone doesn't learn by assigning problem after problem from a text book and doing it over and over?

speaking of, I really ought to start on my hw tonight....

My teacher used to do work in the audio industry, so he can relate a lot of situations into audio related. Works keeping me interested

[topgun 262]

Tom: I love your posting of that xkcd comic that I posted up the other day.

[topgun 262]

Tom: I love your posting of that xkcd comic that I posted up the other day.

[///M5 2,833]

what part of the industry?

[topgun 262]

You should have gone to a smaller school then. Small classes = hands on discussion, instead of lecture. By default it makes it a lot more hands on (not in the literal sense). Hell Physics is rather theoretical, but I made it through by discussing practical applications to understand really how it worked. Thank god for the profs I had access to though otherwise it would have been tough. Of course you get rather personal instruction when your senior year major classes averaged 4 people and they were taught by a prof as there is no grad school associated.

Now if I could have classes where we actually discussed real world applications and studied them as would be used in practice as an engineer, I think I would enjoy that quite a bit more, but not so much.

It wasn't that it was based on real world applications but when you have profs who understand that you need to learn by applying something it makes it easier for them to cater to you. Having more personal time with the professors was the real key probably.

You mean everyone doesn't learn by assigning problem after problem from a text book and doing it over and over?

speaking of, I really ought to start on my hw tonight....

My teacher used to do work in the audio industry, so he can relate a lot of situations into audio related. Works keeping me interested

Lucky.

[Acidburn 10]

Tom: I love your posting of that xkcd comic that I posted up the other day.

thought it was extraordinarily fitting

[Acidburn 10]

one of my profs worked at Ford for a while so occasionally he throws something in about cars which is really the only point in paying attention in that class