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[Acidburn 10]

I'm sure Tom's posted that before

I don't remember posting that one....

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Christ Matt..............just christ

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[///M5 2,833]

http://soundground.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=9

Talk about leaving us hanging...

[mrray13 30]

yeah, neil...lol...i read that and thought WTF?? the sx is on very sexy driver. as far as the cooling on the motor, that's the first i've seen with the holes on the outer rim going into the gap itself. just how efficient is that? is it better then the pole vent?

remember, i'mno purveryor of highend mid drivers, or anything for that matter, lol.

matt, that old hammer gun is sweet. i'm sure you know this, but you're jsut going to shoot low brass light loads correct? and is that a stevens?

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[mrray13 30]

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/mzModernInline.php

that's what i bought for mini me yesterday, the stainless version in the kit. (scroll down to see the kit) $149, i'm pumped, lol. can't wait to feel the thump again!

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[vladd 26]

i had no idea...i have zero knowledge about shotguns but the roomie only shoots one type of shot in his old shotgun (i'm guessing the low brass you mention) and i was just going to follow his advice.

it's not a stevens, just says "W. Richards Belgium" haven't even bothered looking it up either. It has some rust, needs a lot of cleaning. We do have a pair of Stevens' in the closet, both single shot, matching with two different barrel lengths (don't remember the lengths ATM)

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https://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976938758.htm#

that's it...but ours isn't in nearly that kind of shape

[mrray13 30]

if you've never fired it before, i'd recommend nothing more then 2 1/2", no7 or 8 dove/pheasant or lighter load. if you can find 2", shoot that. better safe then sorry.

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[topgun 262]

Is that a Damascus barrel?

Out to go shoot my .17HMR

[///M5 2,833]

frickin' necks.

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[Mike P. 0]

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Just a heads up. I have an uncle who is blind when a old shotgun like that that blew up in his face. At least take it to a gun smith first and let him check it out to make sure it's safe to use. You don't get a second chance.

[///M5 2,833]

Feeling a bit sloooooooooooooow today.

[vladd 26]

Is that a Damascus barrel?

Out to go shoot my .17HMR

no idea, the gunsamerica listing just says laminated steel.

it will be taken to a smith before i shoot it, but it's got a lot of cleaning before it gets to the smith.

[mrray13 30]

Is that a Damascus barrel?

Out to go shoot my .17HMR

i've been thinking about a 10/22 in .17hmr. just to have one.

doesn't look like a damascus barrel, don't see the "twist" in the steel, though i know in later ones, that might not be as prevalant. IIRC, damascus also went away right after intro of smokeless as it can't handle the pressures of smokeless.

and sean, are you calling me a neck?

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[mrray13 30]

T.O.P.

brb, gotta get the hair trimmed. and tom, no worries, while i have cut the sides and back, the top is still growing and gets pulled back into a ponytail everyday for work. the top of my hair jsut about reaches my neck, but i keep the sides and back trimmed short so work can't bitch about me not having a clean, business style haircut.

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[Mike P. 0]

Is that a Damascus barrel?

Out to go shoot my .17HMR

i've been thinking about a 10/22 in .17hmr. just to have one.

doesn't look like a damascus barrel, don't see the "twist" in the steel, though i know in later ones, that might not be as prevalant. IIRC, damascus also went away right after intro of smokeless as it can't handle the pressures of smokeless.

"Laminated steel" and "damascus" is the same thing. Use extreme caution.

[mrray13 30]

just got my hair did, and i feel like i'm 4pds lighter, lol. damn, i've got thick hair.

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[mrray13 30]

Is that a Damascus barrel?

Out to go shoot my .17HMR

i've been thinking about a 10/22 in .17hmr. just to have one.

doesn't look like a damascus barrel, don't see the "twist" in the steel, though i know in later ones, that might not be as prevalant. IIRC, damascus also went away right after intro of smokeless as it can't handle the pressures of smokeless.

"Laminated steel" and "damascus" is the same thing. Use extreme caution.

in knife making, i can see where laminated and damascus is the same, but in shotguns...

Some old shotgun barrels (usually on double barreled guns) were formed from wires that were wrapped around a mandrel and forged and welded into shape. This leaves a visible wire pattern, similar to a fingerprint in the barrel and such are referred to as "Damascus Barrels". Guns made with Damascus barrels are significantly weaker than fluid steel barrels, and more prone to corrosion and failure due to the welds along the length of the barrels. Damascus barrel shotguns should be examined by a qualified gunsmith and proof tested before use, to ensure that the barrels are sound before using the shotgun. The use of modern nitro cordite shotgun cartridges in an antique damascus barreled shotgun would cause the barrel to fail with dangerous consequences. Damascus barrels are only proofed for the use of traditional black powder which has much less ballistic energy than cordite. Damascus was used to manufacture shotgun barrels as choke boring was not mastered. It was far simpler to forge and weld the damascus around a mandrel to achieve the choke than it was to bore a fluid steel barrel. Choke boring was finally perfected by W.W. Greener near the end of the nineteenth century.

but i believe what similiar in the two, is the "welding".

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[mrray13 30]

modern "damascus" blade. actually made by "pattern welding". gives a "laminated" look.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel

^ great little read on Damascus.

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[Mike P. 0]

From wikianswers.com:

What does Laminated Steel stamped on a shotgun barrel mean?

This was the method of making shotgun barrels in the 19th century. Strips of metal or wire were wound around a mandrell and hammer-welded. "Twist", "Stubb Twist" and "Damascus" are all types of laminated barrels. Although they were safe enough when made, if a gun has not been properly cared for in the intervening 100 years, they may have developed sub-surface rust spots which could cause them to fail. And modern shells are much more powerful than the black powder ammunition that was available in the 1890's, so a gun with laminated barrels should not be shot unless it has been checked by an experienced gunsmith, and then only with the loads appropriate for its construction.

For safetys sake let there be no doubt what you're dealing with.

[mrray13 30]

From wikianswers.com:

What does Laminated Steel stamped on a shotgun barrel mean?

This was the method of making shotgun barrels in the 19th century. Strips of metal or wire were wound around a mandrell and hammer-welded. "Twist", "Stubb Twist" and "Damascus" are all types of laminated barrels. Although they were safe enough when made, if a gun has not been properly cared for in the intervening 100 years, they may have developed sub-surface rust spots which could cause them to fail. And modern shells are much more powerful than the black powder ammunition that was available in the 1890's, so a gun with laminated barrels should not be shot unless it has been checked by an experienced gunsmith, and then only with the loads appropriate for its construction.

For safetys sake let there be no doubt what you're dealing with.

thank you sir. i did not know that.

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[Adrian_D 520]

Kent and Jordan : go check your emails

[mrray13 30]

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