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ok. so yall say you cant mix sub sizes because they peak at diff frequencies.,, but you also say the reason you can put subs and 6 1/2s in a car is because it peaks a diff frequencies..,

Ive mixed 2 12s with 8 and it sounded fine, and ive also had 2 12s firin towards each other,, and everyone one says there is cancellation, but there was none for my application

And you determined there was no cancellation and this setup was beneficial how?

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ok. so yall say you cant mix sub sizes because they peak at diff frequencies.,, but you also say the reason you can put subs and 6 1/2s in a car is because it peaks a diff frequencies..,

Ive mixed 2 12s with 8 and it sounded fine, and ive also had 2 12s firin towards each other,, and everyone one says there is cancellation, but there was none for my application

You couldn't audibly hear it in that scenario.

Regardless, do not do it. It's a waste of time money and effort.

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ok. so yall say you cant mix sub sizes because they peak at diff frequencies.,, but you also say the reason you can put subs and 6 1/2s in a car is because it peaks a diff frequencies..,

Ive mixed 2 12s with 8 and it sounded fine, and ive also had 2 12s firin towards each other,, and everyone one says there is cancellation, but there was none for my application

And you determined there was no cancellation and this setup was beneficial how?

because, i tried the the solutions ppl said would take the cancellation away, but it only made things quieter, i tried only runnin one sub, got quieter, and i tried isobaric, no sound at all with that

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because, i tried the the solutions ppl said would take the cancellation away, but it only made things quieter, i tried only runnin one sub, got quieter, and i tried isobaric, no sound at all with that

the woofers have to be out of phase for isobaric to work.... otherwise you get no sound... isobaric isn't intended to increase output.... Isobaric would never work properly with two different woofers....

it's never a good idea to mix subwoofers... of course the woofers will play and if your adding more woofers(more surface area) on the same power-pending the ohm load- it'll get louder... doesn't mean it's a good thing.. doesn't mean it bad I suppose.. I just know I'd rather pop my trunk and see 2 of the same woofers instead of 12 different boxes with every woofer I could pull out of the closet...

for reference..

I went to a show where a kid had 12 12's in his ford ltd.. he had 6 different amps, 8 different boxes and 8 different kinds of woofers... he did a whopping 138.8db... at that show I ran 2 cerwin vega hed 8's (off 3k) and did a 146.3... so who needs 12 miscellaneous 12's anyway?

(*I ran the 8's to mess with my buddy running 2 15's he was only doing 47's with his 2 15's and 3k)

Use your best woofer, build a good box and enjoy, sell off all the miscellaneous stuff...

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some guy at my school had 2 10`s and a 12 in the the back of his car and he`s conviced it sounds amazing because he claimes the 12 hits lower where the 10`s cant and the tens are punchier yadda yadda yadda...it sounds like crap!

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you know nothing all you do is spin records.

i spinz ze rekurdz

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because, i tried the the solutions ppl said would take the cancellation away, but it only made things quieter, i tried only runnin one sub, got quieter, and i tried isobaric, no sound at all with that

the woofers have to be out of phase for isobaric to work.... otherwise you get no sound... isobaric isn't intended to increase output.... Isobaric would never work properly with two different woofers....

it's never a good idea to mix subwoofers... of course the woofers will play and if your adding more woofers(more surface area) on the same power-pending the ohm load- it'll get louder... doesn't mean it's a good thing.. doesn't mean it bad I suppose.. I just know I'd rather pop my trunk and see 2 of the same woofers instead of 12 different boxes with every woofer I could pull out of the closet...

for reference..

I went to a show where a kid had 12 12's in his ford ltd.. he had 6 different amps, 8 different boxes and 8 different kinds of woofers... he did a whopping 138.8db... at that show I ran 2 cerwin vega hed 8's (off 3k) and did a 146.3... so who needs 12 miscellaneous 12's anyway?

(*I ran the 8's to mess with my buddy running 2 15's he was only doing 47's with his 2 15's and 3k)

Use your best woofer, build a good box and enjoy, sell off all the miscellaneous stuff...

isnt just switchin the pos and neg wires to one of the subs wirin it out of phase.. thats wat i did and there was no sound.. but that was one of my first systems when i didnt know alot, now i run a single fifteen, and sometimes one 8" in a really good box

i dont mix woofer brand either,, it does look dumb

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isnt just switchin the pos and neg wires to one of the subs wirin it out of phase..

Out of relative phase, yes...but the resulting push/pull combo will be in absolute phase.

A lot of the time, speakers need to be wired out of phase in order to sound right anyway :)

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ok. so yall say you cant mix sub sizes because they peak at diff frequencies.,, but you also say the reason you can put subs and 6 1/2s in a car is because it peaks a diff frequencies..,

Ive mixed 2 12s with 8 and it sounded fine, and ive also had 2 12s firin towards each other,, and everyone one says there is cancellation, but there was none for my application

And you determined there was no cancellation and this setup was beneficial how?

because, i tried the the solutions ppl said would take the cancellation away, but it only made things quieter, i tried only runnin one sub, got quieter, and i tried isobaric, no sound at all with that

Amusing that you discredit your own opinion seconds later in the same thread. "that was one of my first systems when I didn't know a lot" Indeed it actually sounded like arse. :(

because, i tried the the solutions ppl said would take the cancellation away, but it only made things quieter, i tried only runnin one sub, got quieter, and i tried isobaric, no sound at all with that

the woofers have to be out of phase for isobaric to work.... otherwise you get no sound... isobaric isn't intended to increase output.... Isobaric would never work properly with two different woofers....

it's never a good idea to mix subwoofers... of course the woofers will play and if your adding more woofers(more surface area) on the same power-pending the ohm load- it'll get louder... doesn't mean it's a good thing.. doesn't mean it bad I suppose.. I just know I'd rather pop my trunk and see 2 of the same woofers instead of 12 different boxes with every woofer I could pull out of the closet...

for reference..

I went to a show where a kid had 12 12's in his ford ltd.. he had 6 different amps, 8 different boxes and 8 different kinds of woofers... he did a whopping 138.8db... at that show I ran 2 cerwin vega hed 8's (off 3k) and did a 146.3... so who needs 12 miscellaneous 12's anyway?

(*I ran the 8's to mess with my buddy running 2 15's he was only doing 47's with his 2 15's and 3k)

Use your best woofer, build a good box and enjoy, sell off all the miscellaneous stuff...

isnt just switchin the pos and neg wires to one of the subs wirin it out of phase.. thats wat i did and there was no sound.. but that was one of my first systems when i didnt know alot, now i run a single fifteen, and sometimes one 8" in a really good box

i dont mix woofer brand either,, it does look dumb

If you are asking about an isobaric setup, no.

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isnt just switchin the pos and neg wires to one of the subs wirin it out of phase..

Out of relative phase, yes...but the resulting push/pull combo will be in absolute phase.

A lot of the time, speakers need to be wired out of phase in order to sound right anyway :)

That's why terminals shouldn't be marked on single voice coil speakers. Try both and see which sounds best :D

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