saz1500d and which woofers?

[seanbw 1]

i got confirmation from chris at db-r that my 1500d will be here this week. im going to run 1/0, and drop a yellowtop in my car sometime this month. i have several woofers: 2 old zeuz 12" 825w, 2 jl 12w0-8's (kinda useless with the saz) and one new jl10w3v3-4. i was considering throwing two more 10w3v3-4's in to run around a 1 ohm load on the three, however im aware they arent the greatest speakers. my question is this:

for LSQ, in a 1995 honda accord ex cpe, running the saz1500d am i going to be pissed if i buy 2 more 10" jl's, could i fit a single 15 or 12 and get the same or more output while maintaining the sq?

im trying to budget my woofers and enclosure for under $600, i saw some audiopulse epic 12's that looked nice for 180 a piece, ive also found RE SE12's for 140 and sx12's for 190. in short im looking for 1-3 woofers that will work well with the saz1500, and are not all out spl but can still play nice n loud.

[johnecon2001 82]

How much space are you willing to sacrifice and what is your overall goal with your system?

[SEBASTO 1]

..as anyone knows ..i would recommend AA HAVOCs ...if u want S.Q.L (sound-quality-loudness)

Edited August 6, 2008 by SEBASTO

[seanbw 1]

How much space are you willing to sacrifice and what is your overall goal with your system?

im not too worried bout space, however my 12's almost took up the whole trunk, it was a jl box, 32w 14.5h and 17d. thats about the same amount of space i want to use. i want LSQ for my bass. i was thinkin i might stick with sealed if i can get enough volume from my subs.

[seanbw 1]

..as anyone knows ..i would recommend AA HAVOCs ...if u want S.Q.L (sound-quality-loudness)

size, impedence, where do i find em?

[beatjeep 0]

You may want to look at maybe one Fi SSD sub. Also where did u find an audiopulse epic for only a 180 dollars? Cause the ones i found are $224..

[tezin87 0]

15'' AA Havoc sealed......do it!

[SEBASTO 1]

..as anyone knows ..i would recommend AA HAVOCs ...if u want S.Q.L (sound-quality-loudness)

size, impedence, where do i find em?

somethin on the havoc

for the dealer contact [email protected]

or visit ascendant audio forum ...

[seanbw 1]

You may want to look at maybe one Fi SSD sub. Also where did u find an audiopulse epic for only a 180 dollars? Cause the ones i found are $224..

http://artofnoiseaudio.com/speakers_apsubE12_4.php

ok, so i measured my trunk, i have 36w 16h (MAX id prefer 14") 18d to use as my enclosure space. it would fit three 10's or two 12's perfectly but i havent seen many enclosures for 15's at less than 16h. i'd really prefer to do 12-14" of enclosure height to let air flow over the box and seats into the car. i was looking at those 10" sound splinter rl-i10 svc 4ohm woofers in the ssa shop. how do you guys think 3 of those on the sundown saz-1500d would sound? oh and a dumby quiestion too: would two splinters and one jl w3 be ok if i had each seperate, i mean the voice coil impedance is the same and they'd all be sealed individually...... am i an idiot or can i just by two splinters till i can afford the 3rd? (i'd like to get a box with three 10" woofer holes and only 2 woofers initially)

[seanbw 1]

15'' AA Havoc sealed......do it!

i dont have much height for a 15" (only about 14-16" MAX) can i do a top firing sealed enclosure and get the same effect? (i have 36"w and 18"d for an enclosure)

[titanle 0]

I also might be getting a saz1500d, but my only issue is that i cant get anything over10". So far ive looked at the FI BL and RE SX in dual 2ohm configuration so I can run at 1-ohm load.

[JimJ 11]

would two splinters and one jl w3 be ok if i had each seperate, i mean the voice coil impedance is the same and they'd all be sealed individually...... am i an idiot

Bad idea.

[tezin87 0]

am i an idiot or can i just by two splinters till i can afford the 3rd? (i'd like to get a box with three 10" woofer holes and only 2 woofers initially)

That's a better idea. Building your own sealed box isn't really that hard. Just make sure you use enough wood glue and use caulk on all the seems. Also, if you end up getting 2 at first and the third later on, make sure to divide each sub into it's own chamber. Or if you build a single chamber box, just be real careful with your gains because having 2 in a box intended for 3 will reduce their power handling due to the enclosure being larger.

[cubdenno 0]

I am using a TC 3000 15 DVC (Audiopulse AXIS I believe) with my SAZ1500D. Freekin unreal output. I listen to a lot of rock with lots o double kick drum. Tight and Right. My boy likes rap. It rattled a friends kidney stone loose. Am sure any of your choices should work ok. Just maintain load @1 ohm and above.

As for running woofs of differing makes, if you run them in individual sealed compartments, you should be fine for a temporary install. Yeah the woofs have different specs but 30 cycles is 30 cycles whether its an 6,8,10,12,15,18 etc... or its from brand a, b ,c ,d.... you get my point. Again, I stress, it will work fine if you keep the load on the amp in a safe area. The Sundown is a tank. Had a friend years back that ran 2 12's and 2 tens in a 4 compartment sealed enclosure. The 10's were of differing manufacturers and the 12's were the same manufacturer. So to recap he had 3 different brands and 2 different sizes regarding 4 woofers off of 1 amp an orion HCCA 225. Sounded fine. Tons of bass. Did he compete? no. If you are wanting to use what you got and keep the spending lots o cash down then run the three tens till you can get that third matching sub.

Am sure I will get flamed with that answer. If anyone has an answer that can correct what I have stated above please do so so that I can update my points of reference. Always willing to learn new stuff. Also I understand speakers have differing specs, and running certain types of the same sized speakers impedance disregarded can cause damage to one of the drivers, but the listing he gave should be able to play togetherpretty well until he gets a matching speaker or totally upgrades altogether.

just my 2 cents

[JimJ 11]

As for running woofs of differing makes, if you run them in individual sealed compartments, you should be fine for a temporary install. Yeah the woofs have different specs but 30 cycles is 30 cycles whether its an 6,8,10,12,15,18 etc... or its from brand a, b ,c ,d.... you get my point.

Different woofers will have different responses at those frequencies...I'm just curious as to what your reference for "sounding good" is

[cubdenno 0]

Obviously "good" is subjective. I like accurate myself. Some might call it dry, non boomy with very little overhang. Sorry, bad at descriptions. Unfortunately I have 4 other people who ride in my car that have a little bit of say in my hobby. So I found a middle ground and I can tolerate a little bit of boom with my ported enclosure. Besides, 140+ db just plain makes me crack up when I am playing the spl preset on my 701.

Yes I understand that each woofer has differing specs and therefore differing efficiencies at producing certain frequencies

The f3 of woofer brand a is X and the f3 of woofer brand b is Y. Sure I am oversimplifying but again I think most get my point. The T/S specs of two of the same brand make and model woofer can vary by what... 10% +-? Barring any mechanical noise (running a woofer with an Xmax of 5 and a woofer with an xmax of 20 may cause some clanging!! He he) So one must pay attention to that, but in the three 10's I believe the OP stated there wasn't THAT much of a difference.

And how many people are going to be able to tell that you have 2 differing brands of 10 inch sub in a sealed enclosure in the trunk of a car? 5 out of a 100?

[seanbw 1]

ok so i slapped the saz1500 in today, tried it @ 4ohm load on my single sealed w3v3 10" (meh) and then threw the two ZEUZ 12" svc 4ohm in my jl power wedge that had the w0's in it. the amp really kills the chit out of the zeuz, i dont know much bout em cuz theyre like 14 years old and totally corroding, i assume theyll die soon. they hit real hard though, and now im torn between doing a proper dual 2ohm 15" in a ported enclosure, or the 3 tens. the determining factor for the 15 is that it would have to be top firing side ported, i just dont know how it will sound in that trunk. as far as the saz1500 goes, ive got it at half gain with no boost and it kills the zeuz's (they have no wrms rating they only say 825w max). does anyone have any experience with a top firing enclosure in a smaller trunk? man this is tough, id like to just do both and then decide but.... $$$$$.......

[seanbw 1]

thinking bout a RE sx15d2. any opinions? the mach5 ixl 15.2.2 looks really interesting too, and a great price

Edited August 8, 2008 by caligreen

[titanle 0]

Ive heard good things about the SX, its on my list as well, but in 10"

[seanbw 1]

went with the sx15d2, also ordered my 1/0, and components. got really good deals on everything with manufacturer warranties. going to have a reputable shop i found my in area do a custom 4cu ported for me (said they'd design and build the enclosure for my specific woofer and vehicle airspace, they also deal in RE audio). my sundown will soon have some friends to play with (and some current)!

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Look forward to any install pictures.