mounting question

[calvin 0]

i have some dayton rs180's ( 7 in.) that i recently purchased. my car takes 6x8's up front and 6x9's in the rear. other then using a piece of wood to mount the speakers what other method could i use that will give me some clearance and also allow me to install the speakers so that they do not come in direct contact with the door. i have heard of adapters but i do not know if they will help me in my case. these are the speakers specs:

Specifications: *Power handling: 60 watts RMS/90 watts max *VCdia: 1.5" *Le: .90 mH *Znom: 8 ohms *Re: 6.4 ohms *Frequency range: 40-2,200 Hz *Fs: 38 Hz *SPL: 87.6 dB 2.83V/1m *Vas: .88 cu. ft. *Qms: 2.00 *Qes: .47 *Qts: .38 *Xmax: 6 mm *Dimensions: A: 7-1/8", B: 5-3/4", C: 3-5/8".

and since i couldn't find my exact speaker specs online i found a speaker identical:

Speaker Size : 5" x 7" / 6" x 8"

Design : 2-way

Sensitivity : 90 dB

Frequency Response : 45Hz - 20kHz

Peak Power Handling : 70 watts

RMS Power Handling : 35 watts

Impedance : 4 ohms

Curvilinear Injection-Molded Polypropylene (CIMP) woofer cone

High-Temp Polyimide Film Voice Coil Former

Optimized Polyfoam Ribbed Surround Radius

1/2" PEN semi-dome tweeter

Neodymium tweeter magnet

New Enhanced BAM (Basket and Motor) Assembly

High-Power Tinsel Lead Wires

Ferro-fluid cooled tweeter voice coil

Top Mount Depth : 2-5/16"

Bottom-mount depth : 2-11/16"

Cutout Dimensions : 5" x 7-1/8"

i really dont want to build pods on my front doors but i am open to all suggestions. and just fyi, i havent figured out yet where i want to put the speakers in the rear. whether it be the factory location (rear deck) or in the doors.

[Big E 4]

Any particular reason you don't want to use wood?

You could use plexiglass...or fiberglass your own adapter plate.

[KU40 173]

yeah, why not wood? That's the easiest method, and since it should be able to stay in the factory location behind the door panel you don't have to worry about looks.

What tweeter are you pairing these with? And have you found a location for them yet?

Edited July 2, 2008 by KU40

[calvin 0]

i am glad that u mentioned that cause that was part of my next question. with these speakers what would be a good tweeter to run with. i am using a zx650.4 kicker.

also i have no idea how a crossover works so i dont know which one to buy. what specs do i need to know to have a functioning set? i want to go with titanium tweeters and i havent found a spot in the car where i want to mount them yet. depending if i use a crossover or nor will depend if i mount them at the dash or in the door next to the speaker.

[KU40 173]

active or passive crossovers? Active would be easier because it is more simple to change crossover points while you listen. You'll have to buy a 2-way crossover, one that will at least put a low pass on the mid and a high pass on the tweeter. Audiocontrol is one of the most famous active crossover brands.

As for tweeters, I don't mind my JL XR tweets (even though I'm more of a silk guy). I haven't had much experience with other metal tweets though.

[calvin 0]

so do all crossovers have the same frequency range? so i could just go to the store and purchase any crossover? and 2 way?

if i am correct a crossover allows u to control the frequency to the speakers? also allows to to run 4 speakers (2 tweets and 2 whatever) as 2 channels to the amp?

[KU40 173]

no, not all crossovers have the same crossover points or ranges if talking about active. Likewise, not all sets of speakers (mid and tweet pair) will sound good on the same crossover points. If you go active you'll have to just test things out and change them up to find where they sound the best while also providing good protection for the speakers.

If you go active you'll need one amplifier channel for each speaker. If you go passive you can put a mid + tweet on the same amplifier channel. But since you're going DIY, it will take more effort and skill to select the right components to make a passive crossover that will fit your speakers well. You should use a computer program to help with a passive crossover. You can buy off-the-shelf passives but they likely won't be ideal for the speakers you're using.

[calvin 0]

do u know of any websites or good tutorials on how to crossover speakers and all the terminology associated. ei. db slope all that stuff. it makes it real hard to ask questions when u have no knowledge of the topic or its verbage.

[KU40 173]

http://www.the12volt.com

There was another site that was even better IMO, but I can't remember it right now.

[calvin 0]

ok. thanks 4 the help