deadening of doors

[hayes55987 0]

Hey guys, so I'm thinking of making the switch to a no sub set-up for awhile at least because the room in the trunk would be nice and I am starting to go away from that whole rap/bass phase. Currently, I just have a layer or two of eDead in my doors that are pretty solid on the actual door metal, but I am sure I am lacking covering up the larger holes.

My question is what can I do or what would be my best bet for setting up a good deadening scheme. I've heard to maybe get some quality deadener (second skin or raammat?) and maybe some ensolite, but if I could hear it some more in detail or some tips that'd be great.

To know what I'm dealing with, my set-up is this:

Adire Koda's 6.5" Components with the 6.5" in the stock location and the tweeter mounted a foot or two above it in the door panel.

They are powered passively off a Rockford 800a2 getting...200rms each. Approximately 100rms over what's recommended

Currently I have the HPF set at maybe...50-60Hz or somewhere around there and my sub plays everything below.

So my questions are I guess what can I do to be getting the most midbass out, and secondly, how much midbass would you guys be thinking I should be getting? Like pound in your chest midbass? Or just make the mirror vibrate a little and feeling it at my calves?

Gimme an idea of what to do! The eDead didn't really do a noticeable difference.

[KU40 173]

you should have all the holes covered up on the door panel that the speaker is mounted to. I don't know that you'll feel it very much in your chest, but there should be some noticeable air movement against your pant leg I'd guess.

[hayes55987 0]

k, well I have the air movement on my pant leg now. Maybe it is pretty good deadening as it is and I am just asking for to much. I don't have any....solid panels over my giant holes in my door, but I just have large pieces of the eDead that I cut out over top. So they are like flimsy or whatever, but still sealed against air.

any thoughts on that vs. like a molded piece of plastic or something, then deadening that?

[dem beats 1,223]

Hey guys, so I'm thinking of making the switch to a no sub set-up for awhile at least because the room in the trunk would be nice and I am starting to go away from that whole rap/bass phase. Currently, I just have a layer or two of eDead in my doors that are pretty solid on the actual door metal, but I am sure I am lacking covering up the larger holes.

My question is what can I do or what would be my best bet for setting up a good deadening scheme. I've heard to maybe get some quality deadener (second skin or raammat?) and maybe some ensolite, but if I could hear it some more in detail or some tips that'd be great.

To know what I'm dealing with, my set-up is this:

Adire Koda's 6.5" Components with the 6.5" in the stock location and the tweeter mounted a foot or two above it in the door panel.

They are powered passively off a Rockford 800a2 getting...200rms each. Approximately 100rms over what's recommended

Currently I have the HPF set at maybe...50-60Hz or somewhere around there and my sub plays everything below.

So my questions are I guess what can I do to be getting the most midbass out, and secondly, how much midbass would you guys be thinking I should be getting? Like pound in your chest midbass? Or just make the mirror vibrate a little and feeling it at my calves?

Gimme an idea of what to do! The eDead didn't really do a noticeable difference.

I'm going to address the doors. I would go with Raam every time over SS, and miles above edead. In general you want to put a layer on everything, I would even suggest to use a wire mesh over gaps on interior body work, raammat over it. I would say ensolite is even more important than the Raamat for your aplication, but I wouldn't go without the mat.

[hayes55987 0]

k, yeah. Thats what I've been hearing. I may have to get a new window motor in there and so obviously i'd have to take off the deadening and so I thought to myself, why not just re-do it the right way.

Do you guys put the Ensolite on the door itself? or on the door panel? or both?

I'm thinking a layer or two of Raammat on the inner layer of the door. Leave the eDead thats on the outside one as it is, but then put as much Ensolite as i can lay down over that eDead to absorb the back sound wave maybe? Then just Ensolite the door panel or Raammat it

what are your thoughts?

[subwoofery 0]

You should try to go onto http://www.dynamat.com/technical_installat...ation_menu.html

Try to download the "Car Audio Competition Door Installation" file. Might help you.

Going with SS or Raamat is a good choice imho

[y_d0c 0]

a while back i started a topic on midbass.....ramos helped out tremendously with the deadening issue...

heres the link.. http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...showtopic=18415 .. he explains it rather well...scroll down until you see it

hope it helps

Edited June 12, 2008 by y_d0c