SI D2 plus 2500wrms ?

[Blinkybill 0]

Hello guys, first thread on here

Was just wondering, how do you think a D2 will take 2500wrms, on a daily BASSis, i.e streetbass, daily listening, i can't see it being a problem just playing music nicely, but what about when i crank it ?

The whole system will be scoped, so it will be getting a purely clean signal, will be ported, about 4cuft, then port displacement, so say even 3 cuft ?

I have seen this thing take 1700wrm quite nicely, but what about over quite a period of time ? i mean i know how to treat a sub, i know how they work and how to set a system up.

So what you recon ? Go for it ?

Also, can they be reconed ? or will i have to buy a new one ?

Thanks in advance, ohh and -Max-, if you read this, you should'nt be worried dude you should be chitting yourself

[Jordan94z 0]

you talkin' about a 15d2? I don't think the 12 would take too kindly, but with no experience with the 15's I will leave someone else to answer that.

[Mark 0]

Well...the driver is yours to do with as you choose. Keep in mind, though, that warranty won't cover you melting the voice coil. 2500W RMS in a ported enclosure daily is an obscene amount for any driver. I would recommend against it simply because I don't want to see a driver die that doesn't have to. Run two if you're worried about output.

[Tirefryr 1,742]

My question is, why would you even WANT to do that? This thing will get insanely loud off of 600 watts. There's really no need for 2500. I could see a burp moster, but daily. . .

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

run it at for ohms maybe?

[WeDgE 0]

run it at for ohms maybe?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I like to run my drivers at for ohms too! Talk about coincidence...

[Blinkybill 0]

Thanks for the replies guys

Yes i mean the 15"D2.

Reasons, for running that much power ? Well, i am mad is the main reason, and i want it LOUDD !

This is purely dailydriving streetbass setup.

There will be more than one driver in the whole install, but each will recieve this same amount of power.

As i say it will be set up correctly, so i hope i will not blow or get any failers

The amps will be running at 1 ohms, 2ohms to begin with, ( till i can afford more amps ).

Will it take the abuse o.k ?

[I8apony19 0]

To be honest...I don't know too many subwoofers out there that really are going to tolerate even 2kw of power on a daily basis. I'd settle with something more like 1500w on each...or go with even less power and gain the efficiency back with a larger enclosure....

[-SuperiorSounds- 0]

Kiddies, you simply dont know Bill. This guy can sit in a car with 4 x 18 Juggs with a 3kw on each at about half volume, quietly reading a newspaper

My opinion (and I'll wait for Nick to get his a$$ over to confirm/disagree/agree/whatever ) is that 1500RMS for 1 x Mag 15 is ample.

You gotta keep in mind that the 15" is quite efficient, 91.5dB so even 1 15" with 1500RMS will be loud....but the number you wanna have will mean regular trips to casualty/local cop shop :D

[tryatt 0]

i think Bill is more than aware of what a mag can do.. and is aware that 1500w is enough for them...

but Bill doesnt just want "enough" hes a crazy mofo

you could probably give him a sub with a 5kw rms rating, and he'd probably run it with 3 times that just for fun

[Twitch 0]

what are the chances of me killing an h2 with a 2400?

[Jordan94z 0]

From what I have read on all the boards about H2's, the chances are pretty good you would kill it.

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

run it at for ohms maybe?

I like to run my drivers at for ohms too! Talk about coincidence...

[Blinkybill 0]

Hay, i can listen to 4 18" Juggs with 3kw on each at full volum with an Epic and read a new papers !

Hay, subs should never be powered by an amp that puts out the subs rated power, should always give it at least double

Hmmm well i recon i may go for a bit less power then, make it 2000wrms Altho even thats under rated

We shall she what happens then

[tryatt 0]

Bill, you know roughly how much power my mag was getting.. so 2kw should be fine it may have been a little more than 2kw and the sub is still mint

[Electrodynamic 2]

2.5k is just nuts. I mean, sure it's cool...but dang. Even with 2k, if you run it hard for an extended period of time don't be surprised when you cook the coils. The 15's will take some abuse, that's for sure, but they will not hold up for long with that kind of power on them on a "daily" basis. They weren't designed to need that much power, and they simply won't take it. BUT, if you don't mind buying a new batch of speakers from time to time then by all means knock yourself out.

[djjdnap 78]

To be honest...I don't know too many subwoofers out there that really are going to tolerate even 2kw of power on a daily basis.  I'd settle with something more like 1500w on each...or go with even less power and gain the efficiency back with a larger enclosure....

Can you say, XXX.

Can you say, MT

I can

[I8apony19 0]

To be honest...I don't know too many subwoofers out there that really are going to tolerate even 2kw of power on a daily basis.

[djjdnap 78]

Mt is not for everyday?

WHere you read that at?

Besides people do it anyway, with no problems.

I think snova had that set up.

[-SuperiorSounds- 0]

There arent many drivers you can pound DAILY all day everyday with 2500RMS solid. I think what Bill means is thathe wants to use a 2000RMS class D amp on each woofer, with gains carefully set, and since he is prett sure he wants to go ported, due to things like impedance rise I am pretty sure the subs will rarely be seeing the REAL 2000RMS. So in that sense, I dont think a 2000RMS amp is a problem, but if we're talking about REAL and continuous 2000RMS, then the only woofer whcih sound half good and could take that power is a DD9515 - but they are like twice the price of a mag 15"

Also, whoever said MT's are musical daily drivers, better think again

Hell, I have tested Incriminator Audio Death Penalty's and although they are competent with SPL at 2500RMS, daily driving with 2000RMS the dust cap got warm quite quick.

Moral of the stories? You dont need 2000RMS per sub to be loud when you have more than 2 15's

[I8apony19 0]

I haven't kept up on the RE MT...so I will admit my ignorance up front...but for the longest time I remember a couple of RE reps and David telling several people the MT is an inefficient bastard not typically used in a daily setup...maybe things have changed...I don't keep up on RE....but that is the last thing I heard about it...

EDIT: WOW....well look at that...RE's site describes it as an SPL only application driver....last time I checked...SPL doesn't equal daily....unless you like the Burp Buddies Volumes 1, 2 ,3 and 4

[Blinkybill 0]

There arent many drivers you can pound DAILY all day everyday with 2500RMS solid. I think what Bill means is thathe wants to use a 2000RMS class D amp on each woofer, with gains carefully set, and since he is prett sure he wants to go ported, due to things like impedance rise I am pretty sure the subs will rarely be seeing the REAL 2000RMS. So in that sense, I dont think a 2000RMS amp is a problem, but if we're talking about REAL and continuous 2000RMS, then the only woofer whcih sound half good and could take that power is a DD9515 - but they are like twice the price of a mag 15"

Also, whoever said MT's are musical daily drivers, better think again

Hell, I have tested Incriminator Audio Death Penalty's and although they are competent with SPL at 2500RMS, daily driving with 2000RMS the dust cap got warm quite quick. 

Moral of the stories? You dont need 2000RMS per sub to be loud when you have more than 2 15's

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Very much what i meant

Should be fun i recon, altho i was looking at the car yesturday, its going to be hard dude