Custom Fabrication

[y_d0c 0]

I was curious if anyone had any sites i can browse and educate myself on custom fabrication....not real complex chit, just things along the lines of amp racks and custom door/kick panels....

much appreciated

[mrray13 30]

there are two forums here that will help. not too mention a few individuals that post alot of build logs, which is another good forum to browse for ideas. lastly, just ask. alot of us can do stuff, and will offer different ways to achieve the same goals.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[y_d0c 0]

aight.....what type of material is used for kickpanel construction or any other panel for that matter......and how exactly is it molded............

:rockwoot: :rockwoot:

[mrray13 30]

most kicks are done with mdf (or somekind of wood) and or fiberglass. most kicks are predominatly 'glass, and while messy and time consuming, it's not all that hard to do.

to mold a specific shape, you'll need plastic, tape (lots of tape, preferably duck tape and blue masking tape) and the fiberglass. you'll want to use the plastic and blue masking tape to cover any areas in teh immediate area you don't want covered with resin. after that's done, use the duct tape (and aluminum foil or anything that resin will have a tough time sticking to) and completely tape off the area you wnat to mold. use some mold release over the duct tape to help with removal. mix your resin and apply a layer. let that flash and repeat, adding in some mat. flash and repeat. make sure you go a bit larger then the final product as it's easier to trim down then to add. let that third layer completely dry. remove from vehicel and ta da!! you have a starting point.

hope that helps, and i'm sure ramos, acidburn and few others will chime in and give you some different options. but that's it in it's most generic, basic form.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[y_d0c 0]

most kicks are done with mdf (or somekind of wood) and or fiberglass. most kicks are predominatly 'glass, and while messy and time consuming, it's not all that hard to do.

to mold a specific shape, you'll need plastic, tape (lots of tape, preferably duck tape and blue masking tape) and the fiberglass. you'll want to use the plastic and blue masking tape to cover any areas in teh immediate area you don't want covered with resin. after that's done, use the duct tape (and aluminum foil or anything that resin will have a tough time sticking to) and completely tape off the area you wnat to mold. use some mold release over the duct tape to help with removal. mix your resin and apply a layer. let that flash and repeat, adding in some mat. flash and repeat. make sure you go a bit larger then the final product as it's easier to trim down then to add. let that third layer completely dry. remove from vehicel and ta da!! you have a starting point.

hope that helps, and i'm sure ramos, acidburn and few others will chime in and give you some different options. but that's it in it's most generic, basic form.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Thank you...im all for the basics....

Few more questions...

is fiberglass costly? Im sure this depends on the quality you get, but for simple molds hows the cost??

[johnecon2001 82]

It's pricey if bought in the wrong place.

http://www.uscomposites.com/ Will put less of a hurt on your wallet.

[ramos 2]

most kicks are done with mdf (or somekind of wood) and or fiberglass. most kicks are predominatly 'glass, and while messy and time consuming, it's not all that hard to do.

to mold a specific shape, you'll need plastic, tape (lots of tape, preferably duck tape and blue masking tape) and the fiberglass. you'll want to use the plastic and blue masking tape to cover any areas in teh immediate area you don't want covered with resin. after that's done, use the duct tape (and aluminum foil or anything that resin will have a tough time sticking to) and completely tape off the area you wnat to mold. use some mold release over the duct tape to help with removal. mix your resin and apply a layer. let that flash and repeat, adding in some mat. flash and repeat. make sure you go a bit larger then the final product as it's easier to trim down then to add. let that third layer completely dry. remove from vehicel and ta da!! you have a starting point.

hope that helps, and i'm sure ramos, acidburn and few others will chime in and give you some different options. but that's it in it's most generic, basic form.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Sounds good to me accept for the laminating. I have gotten into the habit of using either duct tape or painters tape. I lay on a couple layers of tape so the resin doesn't soak through, then use a plastic drop cloth to cover the rest of the floorboard and seat. Then wet out the mat in strips and just apply it to the tape. If you dab the resin on the mat until the mat itself is transparent. ( which you should always do transparent = good saturation) It will stick to the tape well on the vertical surface. Lay up a layer worth of strips one direction, then lay another layer of strips 90 degrees on the bias. THen one more on the 90 bias for good measures. I do all thre layers at once. You get a really strong light weight floor mold. Once the mat has cured and is dry to the touch, pull the mold and remove the tape. If your worried about warpage, you can always put the plastic droploth on the back of the mold and put the mold back into the car to fully cure. But there are several different ways to go about building kicks in a vehicle though. It depends mainly on the vehicle and the kick area in question

[ramos 2]

Thank you...im all for the basics....

Few more questions...

is fiberglass costly? Im sure this depends on the quality you get, but for simple molds hows the cost??

Figure for a pair of kicks

$10 mat

$30 gallon of resin ( won't need but a little over a quart for a normal size set of kicks. But it's cheaper to buy in bulk )

$20 for two quarts of filler ( one reinforced )

$5 sandpaper

$5 for tape

$5 for gloves and brushes

$2 for plastic tarp

and some scrap mdf for a pair of baffles

[y_d0c 0]

most kicks are done with mdf (or somekind of wood) and or fiberglass. most kicks are predominatly 'glass, and while messy and time consuming, it's not all that hard to do.

to mold a specific shape, you'll need plastic, tape (lots of tape, preferably duck tape and blue masking tape) and the fiberglass. you'll want to use the plastic and blue masking tape to cover any areas in teh immediate area you don't want covered with resin. after that's done, use the duct tape (and aluminum foil or anything that resin will have a tough time sticking to) and completely tape off the area you wnat to mold. use some mold release over the duct tape to help with removal. mix your resin and apply a layer. let that flash and repeat, adding in some mat. flash and repeat. make sure you go a bit larger then the final product as it's easier to trim down then to add. let that third layer completely dry. remove from vehicel and ta da!! you have a starting point.

hope that helps, and i'm sure ramos, acidburn and few others will chime in and give you some different options. but that's it in it's most generic, basic form.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Sounds good to me accept for the laminating. I have gotten into the habit of using either duct tape or painters tape. I lay on a couple layers of tape so the resin doesn't soak through, then use a plastic drop cloth to cover the rest of the floorboard and seat. Then wet out the mat in strips and just apply it to the tape. If you dab the resin on the mat until the mat itself is transparent. ( which you should always do transparent = good saturation) It will stick to the tape well on the vertical surface. Lay up a layer worth of strips one direction, then lay another layer of strips 90 degrees on the bias. THen one more on the 90 bias for good measures. I do all thre layers at once. You get a really strong light weight floor mold. Once the mat has cured and is dry to the touch, pull the mold and remove the tape. If your worried about warpage, you can always put the plastic droploth on the back of the mold and put the mold back into the car to fully cure. But there are several different ways to go about building kicks in a vehicle though. It depends mainly on the vehicle and the kick area in question

Thank you...im all for the basics....

Few more questions...

is fiberglass costly? Im sure this depends on the quality you get, but for simple molds hows the cost??

Figure for a pair of kicks

$10 mat

$30 gallon of resin ( won't need but a little over a quart for a normal size set of kicks. But it's cheaper to buy in bulk )

$20 for two quarts of filler ( one reinforced )

$5 sandpaper

$5 for tape

$5 for gloves and brushes

$2 for plastic tarp

and some scrap mdf for a pair of baffles

much appreciated.....

what about something as far as amp racks go, or, specifically, where the amp is embedded into the side panel in the trunk and even into the floor of the trunk. Im not saying that this is done with fiber, considering ive been told its mostly done with mdf.

Edited May 25, 2008 by y_d0c

[Gebrochen 0]

I was going to point you here http://www.glassmanscustomforum.com/ to the photos section, but it's not working now. last time I looked there were 30 or more custom builds with detailed pics. They also sell videos about fabrication techniques.

Edited May 25, 2008 by Gebrochen

[y_d0c 0]

well chit

[Gebrochen 0]

well chit

I'm not sure of the rules here, but if you seach limewire, emule(**) or piratebay.org for "glassman", you're likely to find something useful.

Edited May 25, 2008 by Gebrochen

[y_d0c 0]

dont use limewire...

[Gebrochen 0]

dont use limewire...

Why? I have an older version that's probably not affected by whatever issue you have with it. If you don't like limewire, just get any other free Gnutella client. they all connect to the same place.

[y_d0c 0]

im not in any place where i can use limewire for starters...

[Gebrochen 0]

Well to be more direct, the video I was hinting at is available on eMule. You can at least do searches here if you don't have the client installed.

http://www.filedonkey.com/

[y_d0c 0]

cant use it...

[Gebrochen 0]

cant use it...

Go to a buddy's house with a 256MB USB key :-p.

It's worth the effort for what you're looking for.

Or pay the ($49?) of course.

That video and the pics that used to be there are damn good tutorials for making pods, boxes and modifying dashes.

Edited May 25, 2008 by Gebrochen

[mrray13 30]

most kicks are done with mdf (or somekind of wood) and or fiberglass. most kicks are predominatly 'glass, and while messy and time consuming, it's not all that hard to do.

to mold a specific shape, you'll need plastic, tape (lots of tape, preferably duck tape and blue masking tape) and the fiberglass. you'll want to use the plastic and blue masking tape to cover any areas in teh immediate area you don't want covered with resin. after that's done, use the duct tape (and aluminum foil or anything that resin will have a tough time sticking to) and completely tape off the area you wnat to mold. use some mold release over the duct tape to help with removal. mix your resin and apply a layer. let that flash and repeat, adding in some mat. flash and repeat. make sure you go a bit larger then the final product as it's easier to trim down then to add. let that third layer completely dry. remove from vehicel and ta da!! you have a starting point.

hope that helps, and i'm sure ramos, acidburn and few others will chime in and give you some different options. but that's it in it's most generic, basic form.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Sounds good to me accept for the laminating. I have gotten into the habit of using either duct tape or painters tape. I lay on a couple layers of tape so the resin doesn't soak through, then use a plastic drop cloth to cover the rest of the floorboard and seat. Then wet out the mat in strips and just apply it to the tape. If you dab the resin on the mat until the mat itself is transparent. ( which you should always do transparent = good saturation) It will stick to the tape well on the vertical surface. Lay up a layer worth of strips one direction, then lay another layer of strips 90 degrees on the bias. THen one more on the 90 bias for good measures. I do all thre layers at once. You get a really strong light weight floor mold. Once the mat has cured and is dry to the touch, pull the mold and remove the tape. If your worried about warpage, you can always put the plastic droploth on the back of the mold and put the mold back into the car to fully cure. But there are several different ways to go about building kicks in a vehicle though. It depends mainly on the vehicle and the kick area in question

Thank you...im all for the basics....

Few more questions...

is fiberglass costly? Im sure this depends on the quality you get, but for simple molds hows the cost??

Figure for a pair of kicks

$10 mat

$30 gallon of resin ( won't need but a little over a quart for a normal size set of kicks. But it's cheaper to buy in bulk )

$20 for two quarts of filler ( one reinforced )

$5 sandpaper

$5 for tape

$5 for gloves and brushes

$2 for plastic tarp

and some scrap mdf for a pair of baffles

much appreciated.....

what about something as far as amp racks go, or, specifically, where the amp is embedded into the side panel in the trunk and even into the floor of the trunk. Im not saying that this is done with fiber, considering ive been told its mostly done with mdf.

done with both. framework out of mdf, finished off with glass.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[y_d0c 0]

most kicks are done with mdf (or somekind of wood) and or fiberglass. most kicks are predominatly 'glass, and while messy and time consuming, it's not all that hard to do.

to mold a specific shape, you'll need plastic, tape (lots of tape, preferably duck tape and blue masking tape) and the fiberglass. you'll want to use the plastic and blue masking tape to cover any areas in teh immediate area you don't want covered with resin. after that's done, use the duct tape (and aluminum foil or anything that resin will have a tough time sticking to) and completely tape off the area you wnat to mold. use some mold release over the duct tape to help with removal. mix your resin and apply a layer. let that flash and repeat, adding in some mat. flash and repeat. make sure you go a bit larger then the final product as it's easier to trim down then to add. let that third layer completely dry. remove from vehicel and ta da!! you have a starting point.

hope that helps, and i'm sure ramos, acidburn and few others will chime in and give you some different options. but that's it in it's most generic, basic form.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Sounds good to me accept for the laminating. I have gotten into the habit of using either duct tape or painters tape. I lay on a couple layers of tape so the resin doesn't soak through, then use a plastic drop cloth to cover the rest of the floorboard and seat. Then wet out the mat in strips and just apply it to the tape. If you dab the resin on the mat until the mat itself is transparent. ( which you should always do transparent = good saturation) It will stick to the tape well on the vertical surface. Lay up a layer worth of strips one direction, then lay another layer of strips 90 degrees on the bias. THen one more on the 90 bias for good measures. I do all thre layers at once. You get a really strong light weight floor mold. Once the mat has cured and is dry to the touch, pull the mold and remove the tape. If your worried about warpage, you can always put the plastic droploth on the back of the mold and put the mold back into the car to fully cure. But there are several different ways to go about building kicks in a vehicle though. It depends mainly on the vehicle and the kick area in question

Thank you...im all for the basics....

Few more questions...

is fiberglass costly? Im sure this depends on the quality you get, but for simple molds hows the cost??

Figure for a pair of kicks

$10 mat

$30 gallon of resin ( won't need but a little over a quart for a normal size set of kicks. But it's cheaper to buy in bulk )

$20 for two quarts of filler ( one reinforced )

$5 sandpaper

$5 for tape

$5 for gloves and brushes

$2 for plastic tarp

and some scrap mdf for a pair of baffles

much appreciated.....

what about something as far as amp racks go, or, specifically, where the amp is embedded into the side panel in the trunk and even into the floor of the trunk. Im not saying that this is done with fiber, considering ive been told its mostly done with mdf.

done with both. framework out of mdf, finished off with glass.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

good deal....how would you go about the cutting? tool wise

and gebrochen ill have to stick with the things people post considering im out of town, thanks anyways..