ATTN: Jacob :D

[aznboi3644 2]

Damn...I still want a 1500D lol

[audio-neon 34]

I had not even considered a bigger amp for 2008 but my Team Sundown guys seem to REALLY want a larger amp.

You can blame Wayne and the new street Class restrictions.. I know I really would love to see a 5kw+ amp that is built to be as efficient as possible and due to the amount of power actually being applied to coils after impedance rise it would almost be impossible for the amp to see less than a 1ohm load.

Street A competitors really need ~5kw @ 1ohm... And a competition grade amp really needs a stress in efficiency. I know that I was willing to pay over $1800 dollars for a DD z1 and wanted nothing to do with the z2. The bigger class competitos will be looking for raw power.

If this is for next season, when you get a price figured out let me know.

[audio-neon 34]

oh and as all competition amps are I would sell it with no warranty, except that it arrives in working condition. I know this sounds harsh but anything more than that would be a testament to your committment to your company and product.

[TRZ 0]

this topic is making my palms sweaty.. i have never seen so many people read one topic at one time........

jacob your the man......

I agree... I couldn't get him to budge about it on the phone a while back. Hopefully this will com about. Im down. seriously...

I can ONLY do it under the stipulations posted... 30-40 up front pre-orders is what it would take.

well, the way i see it, if they're out of the team, there should be a small screening process to determine if they are capable of even supporting the amp. but if a known competitor, then consider otherwise pending.

dual alts, batts etc etc.

if the person cant do it, then should be sold with no warranty whatsoever, and if something goes wrong they are responsible for any and all repair costs

granted you may not have time for a screening process like that, whether it be through phone, email may work, but phone would be a bit more personal in terms of determining their knowledge of running a system and whether you feel they are qualified to support it.

Yea like DNA or urine sample or how about a lie detector test or maybe an FBI background check.

[Mjf595 0]

this topic is making my palms sweaty.. i have never seen so many people read one topic at one time........

jacob your the man......

I agree... I couldn't get him to budge about it on the phone a while back. Hopefully this will com about. Im down. seriously...

I can ONLY do it under the stipulations posted... 30-40 up front pre-orders is what it would take.

well, the way i see it, if they're out of the team, there should be a small screening process to determine if they are capable of even supporting the amp. but if a known competitor, then consider otherwise pending.

dual alts, batts etc etc.

if the person cant do it, then should be sold with no warranty whatsoever, and if something goes wrong they are responsible for any and all repair costs

granted you may not have time for a screening process like that, whether it be through phone, email may work, but phone would be a bit more personal in terms of determining their knowledge of running a system and whether you feel they are qualified to support it.

Yea like DNA or urine sample or how about a lie detector test or maybe an FBI background check.

well i see nothing wrong, although maybe putting a bit more labor on jacobs end, which im sure he doesnt really need for the initial screen, but i think it would help in the long run, taking into context the amount that IF jacob chooses to allow a warranty with the amp, the seasoned people who have the ability to support the amps, and the freak problems that DO happen, can be resolved.

however if the person obviously has no clue what they are doing, and it can almost be expected that within a short amount of time the amp will come back for a repair because the idiot fried it, why should jacob have to deal with the extra BS when the person was not capable of running the amp in the first place.

then again, could be easier and run no warranty due to the application that the amp is meant for, which would work as well.

[audio-neon 34]

Once again in Jacob's team, I will probably be the most abusive to the amp, as I will be stuck in street A, Single battery and car off... For bassrace, i'll definitely be staying in a lower class (129.9) knowing that I only have 1 battery and a single alt...

This is mostly hypothetical as I'm not even sure yet if I will be competing in 09.

[Tmax98 3]

wow this topic is hot!

it would be very kool to see a 5k or a 7k

but in the future for me will never see one of those probably just the 1500 for me

[theabunai 3]

Yea like DNA or urine sample or how about a lie detector test or maybe an FBI background check.

well i see nothing wrong, although maybe putting a bit more labor on jacobs end, which im sure he doesnt really need for the initial screen, but i think it would help in the long run, taking into context the amount that IF jacob chooses to allow a warranty with the amp, the seasoned people who have the ability to support the amps, and the freak problems that DO happen, can be resolved.

however if the person obviously has no clue what they are doing, and it can almost be expected that within a short amount of time the amp will come back for a repair because the idiot fried it, why should jacob have to deal with the extra BS when the person was not capable of running the amp in the first place.

then again, could be easier and run no warranty due to the application that the amp is meant for, which would work as well.

I believe the point TRZ was getting at is that if someone wanted this amp with warranty and jacob did do a phone calling session don't you think they would just say "yeah i got alts and batts send me the amp with warranty" even though they didn't have it ??..

I think jacob should do a limited (30 days) or no warranty on the amp...

Edited April 16, 2008 by theabunai

[splitfirexxx 0]

Ide Would Buy 4 SAZ5000D's Right off the bat.....

I currently Run 4 SAZ3000D's....And Ide do 4 more But Then again As Taco say's.....( SPACE IS THE ISSUE)

So Start your List Jacob Ill put my Down payment Tonight for 4 5k's...Possible 4 7k's....

Im in need of Some more power....

I have 2 T3-Audio TSNS's And Im getting 2 more...So 4 in totall...

And 3k+ to each isnt enough.... Ide like to give them 5k each...

So, Tell me when the List start's and I will send you DP for 4 then pay infull when need'd...\

I already have Quite a Few customer's who would Buy the 5k's....

So let me know.....

Thanks,

Elvis

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Wonder if you (Jacob) could arrange a dual board tall heat sink monster like some big amps of old, that were internally bridged.

I would be nervous about offering a warranty on an amp such as this. Interest is strong though, so you never know.

[sundownz 197]

Put some thought into it...

The biggest reason I do not want to release an amp this big has been address - 99% of people will not be able to support even one electrically. Having these come back under warranty would be very costly to Sundown Audio.

How about a warranty against DOA and a 30-day warranty thereafter?

I have also considered a replacement warranty under the "discount replacement" plan where I can replace the amp a certain cost that would be less than what the person paid originally - if they decide they don't want to send it in for repairs.

[sundownz 197]

Also... 5000D or 7000D ? Which would be the best match for most people wanting these ?

[sundownz 197]

Poll added for 5000D vs. 7000D.

[2000LaDe 1]

would u support a warranty on the 5000ds on 21 16v powermasters and a 260 amp alternator???? not going in a daily driver. just a show/bassrace vehicle.

[sundownz 197]

would u support a warranty on the 5000ds on 21 16v powermasters and a 260 amp alternator???? not going in a daily driver. just a show/bassrace vehicle.

Once the warranty policy is determined there will be no exceptions - I can't keep track of who has what for every amp.

That being said I have not 100% settled on what the policy will be for these monster amps.

[SundownAudioNY 0]

I would love some SAZ-7kw. I would be intrested in a pair of the van and lil while down another pair (total of 4). I voted for a 7kw.

[2000LaDe 1]

voted 5k here

[TRZ 0]

Yea like DNA or urine sample or how about a lie detector test or maybe an FBI background check.

well i see nothing wrong, although maybe putting a bit more labor on jacobs end, which im sure he doesnt really need for the initial screen, but i think it would help in the long run, taking into context the amount that IF jacob chooses to allow a warranty with the amp, the seasoned people who have the ability to support the amps, and the freak problems that DO happen, can be resolved.

however if the person obviously has no clue what they are doing, and it can almost be expected that within a short amount of time the amp will come back for a repair because the idiot fried it, why should jacob have to deal with the extra BS when the person was not capable of running the amp in the first place.

then again, could be easier and run no warranty due to the application that the amp is meant for, which would work as well.

I believe the point TRZ was getting at is that if someone wanted this amp with warranty and jacob did do a phone calling session don't you think they would just say "yeah i got alts and batts send me the amp with warranty" even though they didn't have it ??..

I think jacob should do a limited (30 days) or no warranty on the amp...

Yes sir , you got it. I think a simple application and proof of alt/ batt purchase would solve some of the liability issues for jacob but not all .The amp will tell the truth when inspected by jacob once it would be returned . maybe a discount on repairs might help.

Jacob will figure it out and I am sure the amp will be top of the line no matter what the warranty maybe.

[TRZ 0]

7KW my vote as if it matters. Stetsom who?

[80INCHES 0]

hey jacob u know wat i want ( 8 3kd's)

but if u can do 7kd's that would be nice

of if u can do a 6kd( 2 3kd strapped internally) will that still be costly if a noob was to fry them

or it needed replacement

80

[Godsmack 361]

Voted 5k................with how reliable the 3000 is I wonder how many people need 7k or have the $$$ and electrical for a 7k

J

[sundownz 197]

hey jacob u know wat i want ( 8 3kd's)

but if u can do 7kd's that would be nice

of if u can do a 6kd( 2 3kd strapped internally) will that still be costly if a noob was to fry them

or it needed replacement

It won't be a strapped board amp, it will be a purpose built single PCB amp.

Either way... 5k or 7k... the amp won't be cheap and will be massive.

I will also have to tool a new heatsink for it as anything bigger than the 3k has to be wider - I will make it the same style just bigger.

[audioxtremes 0]

I voted for 5k. Dual power and ground inputs would be neccessary and strappable is a must.

[TeamNemesis-DJ 5]

voted 7000d ....

[sundownz 197]

I voted for 5k. Dual power and ground inputs would be neccessary and strappable is a must.

It would have both.