SQ

[Lord Baccus 1]

i get it

i meant RAW as in the feeling of POWER / RAW UN CONTROLLABLE POWER as the Bass player from Slayer or your favorite band hits the E string and the beer @ your feet in starts to vibrate and move across the floor away from you and you have to get out of your seat to retrieve your beer...

I mean a freekin TSUNAMI OF SOUND shakes everything for a mile.

DEATH to DINKY BASS SETUPS... i hope all there 8" subs melt when i drive by

Edited April 12, 2008 by Lord Baccus

[///M5 2,833]

i get it

i meant RAW as in the feeling of POWER / RAW UN CONTROLLABLE POWER

And raw and uncontrollable sounds good? I would make the correlation with non-controlled bass and a fart cannon.

[Lord Baccus 1]

its not a problem Bor

we just see the thing from 2 different points of view.

i get that your into the technical aspect of the detention of what the waves break into.

i just want the concert experience in my SPL-Xplorer

[ANeonRider 3]

i get that your into the technical aspect of the detention of what the waves break into.

[ronrico418 0]

How Bout RAW and controlled!................Whats wrong with that?.................Life begins at 150

Edited April 13, 2008 by mrray13

[ronrico418 0]

SQ to me is being able to enjoy the recording they way the artist wanted me to....be it soft and detailed or bass heavy hip hop.....don't get me wrong but I understand there is a lot of work on either a SQ car or a SPL car....but a lot of hardcore SPL guys even like a detailed and true car stereo sometimes....

Thank You MR. Edwards I LOVE listening to my system at 155Db with clarity!

NOW TO VENT

Personally I'm the first one to use the fart response and actually HATE SPL with a passion. IMPO It is the main part of what almost "killed" our sport. My close friend just won 1ST Place for ISQC at SBN 2008 along with another 1ST in SQ and mind you he's in the top class. (Manufacturer) Oh and he's not a manufacturer by any means....just been killin' the big boys for a while. I believe he also got a 1ST in SQC at world finals. I LOVE BASS but I don't love it by itself....HELL I hate it by itself. And surely I don't want to hear 1 sub do a 160 and not sound like the bass note the artist intended. (i.e. motor, spyder sounds) I have heard 160Db clear and to me that is SQPL putting the QUALITY in SPL. I hate when people cry "don't say LSQ" Personally I've never said LSQ till now. Is that even what it's called??? Still there is such a thing whether it be LSQ or SQPL that people should open their minds to and for someone to think they own the rights to SQ .well that just gets me. I love SQ but at a much more intense level than you. Don't hate- I'm not into drag I'm not trying to kill the sport. I'm trying to SAVE IT. You see when newbies come to their first show and take a look around at all the cars, the trick installs, the tv's, the girls, they are usually going to remember the most and talk about the most about the loudest thing they heard. Unfortunately this will never be one of the drag guys since A most cannot play with their door open(damn washing machine box) and B they can't play a song anyhow since they have no mids and highs. So for years SPL was killing our sport cuz. Newbies could have left their first show with impressive SQPL like the old days which helped us grow more and more..Instead interest was fading fast due to the SPL drag competitions. BASSRACE is saving us all since these top vehicles are very clear at insane levels KEEPING IT REAL BY PLAYING REAL MUSIC!!! This is what people remember and talk about. Pipo's truck, Tommys truck insanely loud YES raw YES w/ quality YES. These are the type of people that are saving our sport today...And we never would have been where we are at without the SPL from years ago which by far was not drag either but closer to bassrace of today. You came with your system that played music and everyone got a really cool demo. No fart with the doors shut and the 173 BIG DEAL. 180 BIG DEAL 172 off one woofer BLOW ME. These people should measure 2 bums fighting over a garbage can. That could be loud too!!! and more than likely has better sound. Think about it the next time you wanna bash someone for liking their system louder than you and automatically assuming they do not like it clear. You know who you are.

Remember to thank your BassRace guys and those that came before them. They are a BIG reason the sport took off. People remembered seeing windshields flex 5 inches jammin their favorite tune more than music they couldn't hear in a drag car and the thing they remembered the most was your ridiculous space shuttle looking windshield. I'll even give props to Alma for seeking a SQ win in her final days with her amazing run w/ SPL. Drag has it's place today...but the sport would be bigger now if drag would have come later on. One man's opinion.....................What SQ means to me!

Edited April 13, 2008 by mrray13

[JimJ 11]

Regardless of what anyone likes, I still don't support people playing their setup in a way that causes physical damage to themselves and others. You might not like dB Drag, but having all of those "mids and highs" is far more damaging to your hearing and the hearing of those around you than pure subbass is. Not that working on a fart machine without proper hearing protection is a smart idea, either.

[///M5 2,833]

its not a problem Bor

we just see the thing from 2 different points of view.

Not really, your point of view just wavers around wherever you feel you "want" to be. One minute it is an SPL car the next you claim otherwise.

i get that your into the technical aspect of the detention of what the waves break into.

First, that isn't even a sentence. Detention is keeping you after school, waves dont "break into", but most importantly I don't care at all about the technical aspect of the system just that it reproduces things like the recording whether it be studio, live, or even something recorded in the basement. Your live performance comments crack me up, in particular since I would guess near 80% of my music are albums that were recorded live.

i just want the concert experience in my SPL-Xplorer

Then you should build an SQ system and not an SPL system as Slayer doesn't have all sorts of big fart cannon bass cabinets when they play. Not even close. Your system doesn't resemble what they do at all. :(

[Lord Baccus 1]

418fi/// I wish i could express myself that clearly

M5/// sense of Humor was on sale @ Walmart last week buy 1 get 1 free

its all good bro i do understand where your comming from even if i cant get the thoughts typed out correctlly...

[ronrico418 0]

Dave Edwards is the Man! The rest of you........

Part A ~Humble yourselves enough to realize that your definition of Sound Quality does not mean people with LOUDER systems than you don't care about the quality of sound.

Part B ~You know who you are you Sq patent holdin' hobo's. lol Humble Thyself or thoust will be banned from having BASS 4-EVER muhahahahahahha then where will your SQ be? Peace JRizzle ............I'm just full of jokes tonight

Edited April 13, 2008 by 418FIs

[JimJ 11]

I can see that holding a coherent discussion with you is going to be impossible.

[ANeonRider 3]

I can see that holding a coherent discussion with you is going to be impossible.

Truth.

[Acidburn 10]

I can see that holding a coherent discussion with you is going to be impossible.

Truth.

No doubt about it.

[Godsmack 361]

SQ to me is (as so many others have said) is listening to any and all songs as the artist intended at any loudness.

My stereo is alot more SPL than SQ.........my subs have alot more juice than the mids and highs.........I hope to 'even" things out shortly.

J

[ronrico418 0]

I can see that holding a coherent discussion with you is going to be impossible.

Cmon jimmyJAY I'm just being funny.....Please continue I will be happily coherent...

Ask me anything. I respect you guys

[sick6ness 1]

For me, a clear distinction between all instruments and sounds.

[fuzzyping 0]

"The soul's recognition of its counterpoint in another."

Oh wait, that's true love. SQ is an accurate reproduction of the original recording or live presentation.

-fp

[Lord Baccus 1]

okokok :

heres the thing that KILLS me !!!

how do i know what the Artist intended when they recorded it as i was NOT in the recording studio when they did it ?

[JimJ 11]

okokok :

heres the thing that KILLS me !!!

how do i know what the Artist intended when they recorded it as i was NOT in the recording studio when they did it ?

A valid point, sometimes even the artists themselves don't really know what the song sounds like until they listen to it on the summed output...examples are what Tull did with some tracks for Aqualung, or some Floyd recordings, or a lot of modern artists that resort to "click tracks"...personally I think true stereo recording has some benefits that multitrack will never have, but that's a discussion for elsewhere...

But even in that case, SQ is all about getting the instruments to sound like they actually do in real life. This is why going to concerts is so critical if you're into this sort of thing, I think - not only because of the musical connection and interaction that even the best stereo system can't give you, but also because unless you're actually familiar with the way the instruments sound, trying to judge how a stereo reproduces them is going to be difficult to impossible. SQ to me is about closing my eyes and seeing that drummer swish the brushes...or that muted trumpet player who's sitting next to the bass player, and hearing the resonances in the upright bass that you'd actually hear if you were listening to one in real life.

[ronrico418 0]

But even in that case, SQ is all about getting the instruments to sound like they actually do in real life. This is why going to concerts is so critical if you're into this sort of thing, I think - not only because of the musical connection and interaction that even the best stereo system can't give you, but also because unless you're actually familiar with the way the instruments sound, trying to judge how a stereo reproduces them is going to be difficult to impossible. SQ to me is about closing my eyes and seeing that drummer swish the brushes...or that muted trumpet player who's sitting next to the bass player, and hearing the resonances in the upright bass that you'd actually hear if you were listening to one in real life.

well written Jim

SQ to me is simply sound without distortions. What you are explaining here sounds like what I personally would define as sound stage and imaging. I too like to close my eyes when listening to a "SQ" car and if it has that great soundstage and imaging.... I can almost go into a euphoric sleep everytime. Better than any drug. Now if you combined the drug with a "SQ" car I don't know what would happen. YOU may think you've entered a worm hole to another time or place or then again you might just throw up. Say No To Drugs...

Employer: Can you pass a drug test?

Applicant: Hell yeah! What's on the test? I know everything about drugs!

Result: Not Hired!

Edited April 13, 2008 by 418FIs

[///M5 2,833]

okokok :

heres the thing that KILLS me !!!

how do i know what the Artist intended when they recorded it as i was NOT in the recording studio when they did it ?

Really simple actually. First start with sine waves.

1) Take the output of your cd player into an analyzer and look at the response.

2) Now take a microphone and measure the acoustic response of your system

3) Overlay 1 & 2 and make them identical

Once you balance your system to play back sine waves identically as they are recorded, it will now play music back as recorded.

You also must realize though that popular music in general is recorded in such a way to compensate for stereo systems so you will have to adjust afterwards, of course if you listen to real musicians this is much less the case.

[///M5 2,833]

SQ to me is simply sound without distortions. What you are explaining here sounds like what I personally would define as sound stage and imaging. I too like to close my eyes when listening to a "SQ" car and if it has that great soundstage and imaging.... I can almost go into a euphoric sleep everytime. Better than any drug. Now if you combined the drug with a "SQ" car I don't know what would happen. YOU may think you've entered a worm hole to another time or place or then again you might just throw up. Say No To Drugs...

Employer: Can you pass a drug test?

Applicant: Hell yeah! What's on the test? I know everything about drugs!

Result: Not Hired!

A few things:

1) You have NEVER heard a system without any distortion or music ever without "distortions"

2) Staging is part of the response of a system and you can't isolate it as it is intrinsic to its response

3) Stop posting in colors people can't read

4) Your attempt at being cute with analogies just makes you sound even more idiotic

[ronrico418 0]

SQ to me is simply sound without distortions. What you are explaining here sounds like what I personally would define as sound stage and imaging. I too like to close my eyes when listening to a "SQ" car and if it has that great soundstage and imaging.... I can almost go into a euphoric sleep everytime. Better than any drug. Now if you combined the drug with a "SQ" car I don't know what would happen. YOU may think you've entered a worm hole to another time or place or then again you might just throw up. Say No To Drugs...

Employer: Can you pass a drug test?

Applicant: Hell yeah! What's on the test? I know everything about drugs!

Result: Not Hired!

A few things:

1) You have NEVER heard a system without any distortion or music ever without "distortions"

2) Staging is part of the response of a system and you can't isolate it as it is intrinsic to its response

3) Stop posting in colors people can't read

4) Your attempt at being cute with analogies just makes you sound even more idiotic

1)You know what distortion I'm talking about (I hope)

2)Staging is part fooling you into having a sound stage where all the music seems to come from the front - including subsonic frequency's emanating from the back (usually). Are you trying to have me explain things to you so you may better understand them??? Just ask

3)I was hoping you were color blind...... Damn!

4)Your attempt at making me sound idiotic is making you sound idiotic~er.

5)I'm tired of all the arguing M5 if you need help with your system just ask me...I don't mind helping you out. You seem like you have some basics down but I am always completely willing to help those I own.

M5......I'll take your advice this time and not be cute with an analogy since you apparently have no sense of humor and refuse to laugh at anything. The thing that gets me is if somebody said something in attempted joke I did not find amusing I would probably just forget about it. Since you are obviously obsessed with me I'll instead still attempt to entertain you by displaying my cuteness with facts. By the way thanks M5 cuz no guy has ever called me cute before...............

Facetiously is a word in the English dictionary that has all of the vowels in the word appearing in the correct order. Can anyone think of another?

[ronrico418 0]

you should really quit trying me

Edited April 13, 2008 by 418FIs

[JimJ 11]

2)Staging is part fooling you into having a sound stage where all the music seems to come from the front - including subsonic frequency's emanating from the back (usually). Are you trying to have me explain things to you so you may better understand them??? Just ask

But what makes it distinctly separate from "SQ" I believe if you go to a "SQ" competition, staging might be one of the things they look at - correct me if I'm wrong though