Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Adrian_D

Re-thinking the home system

Recommended Posts

It's finally time to re-do some things.

Should be selling some stuff this weekend, which means I'm going to buy some plywood and build some diffrent enclosures for the mains (also put the HDS tweeters to use). Porting the ca18's should bring out a bit more mid-bass :)

Since the Rl-i is going in the car because of space limitations and I've always wanted an 18, I'm going to replace it with an xxx. I've already started the box for it...here is where I am now :

1 inch mdf, undecided wether to flush mount it or not (baffle is going to be double). Still need a couple more braces and a magnet support after seeing how fragile is the basket, more precisely the mounting lip.

IMG_2992.jpg]

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Flush mount it. :)

The brace looks nice too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

CA18's and HDS's in a floorstanding tower would be the makings of a very, very nice setup :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
CA18's and HDS's in a floorstanding tower would be the makings of a very, very nice setup :)

Unfortunately there isn't any room for a pair of floorstanding towers because of the listening position :(

IMG_0419.jpg

Ignore the "stand", I've replaced that.

I'm going to stick with the same general shape, only around 0.7cf ported.

Just got the package with the sub amp. Some rather cheap China amp but I'm going to mod it a bit.

Got it for 1/2 the price of a new one :woot: for people breaking amps

Thanks for the comments, more pics coming soon :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is how the box looks now :

IMG_3026.jpg

Should I brace it even more ? :D

There is some carpet between the magnet and the brace and it sits really flush.

The amplifier :

IMG_3009.jpg

As soon as I fix it it's getting bigger / more caps for the power supply.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Replaced one of the rezistors in the soft start circuit and the amp turned on. Problem is one of the channels is in protection, but it's a very simple AB amp and I've got the schematic. Just with the silly dmm method I've measured around 450w @ 4 ohms, on one channel. F'ing clip "detectors" turn on waaaaaay too soon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Imagine that, Chinese protection mode activated early

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They might be correct when running it at 2 ohms stereo, but I have to fix one of the channels before I can try :D

I also need measure the voltage drop at high levels and see how I can upgrade the cap bank. Maybe fill up the whole available space with caps... ^_^

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Fixed the amp. Got around 82v @ 4 ohms bridged, on a 50hz tone, which means around 1.6kw. The dust cap got a bit warn :unsure:

Something seems wrong with the amp's crossover, definately a change in sound (not in a good way) from the cheap separate sub crossover I was using. Looks like I might spend money on a dcx2496.

The clip indicators still turn on too soon :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Updates :

Half the sub amp crapped out on me as soon as I finished the box so now I'm running the xxx with 500w. Plenty to keep me happy :)

I've bought a Rotel pre-amp and I'm using my old rack amp for the mains.

IMG_3388.jpg

I also found some old ply and built a test enclosure for the ca18.

IMG_3737.jpg

It's about 0.7cf, ported at 40hz, far bigger compared to the old sealed one.

First impression : nice improvement in midbass, but it's lacking a bit on the vocals. Right now the HDS has only a cap in series and the ca18 is running full-range so I suspect the problems are either some standing waves in the cabinet (correct me if I'm talking BS) or the lack of crossover.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Where is the HDS crossed?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, at 1.5k, it will be down only 6dB, at 750Hz, 12dB. Need more crossover ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks :)

I'm going to try to cross them higher and see what happens. Probably not going to wind inductors before finals are over.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Perhaps some sort of L-pad as well...unless you are biamping with adjustable gains.

Have you listened to just the tweeter with the cap alone and the CA alone? It will give you some insight as what else to address besides just the slope.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Haven't tried either alone but I will as soon as possible.

I forgot to mention I have some sort of L-pad, for ~2dB cut :peepwall:

Thanks again for the input.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Turns out they were crossed at 2k :(

They're crossed at 4k right now. Parts for L-pad's (2db, 3db, 4db cut) are on my desk waiting to wire them up.

IMG_3889.jpg

EDIT : I've opened the gains of the sub amp and with a measly 500w I measured it on the TL...for shits and giggles. 127.4dB on the desk :lol:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×