Getting some new subs

[FocusedOnSound 0]

I'm sure everyone here has had those times when they just get bored and wanna try a different set-up. It's hit me too. Right now I have a 15" Mag D2 in a 3.25 ported enclosure powered by a Hifonics 1205d (putting out about 1000wrms@1ohm). I am trying to get rid of the mag to try a different set-up, I wanted to do 2-12's. I will have around $220-240 to work with, but if i can get away cheaper I will. They two subs I was deciding between were the Type-R's and those MB quarts that woofersetc has on sale for $99.MB quarts

What are some other good options in this price range? I will probably use the same amp and box size isn't much of an issue (up to 5 cuft shouldn't be hard to fit), They will be going in a Focus ZX3

[ANeonRider 3]

Why?

I'd take the Mag over anything that you could buy in that price range.

[johnecon2001 82]

Why would you step down to Type-R's over the Mag? Why not try a new box or a new amp first?

[FocusedOnSound 0]

I really didnt think it would be a big step down, but then again I know jack sh*t. I wanted to try a sealed enclosure but not lose SPL. Thats why I was thinking of dropping to 2-12's.

[johnecon2001 82]

Why not just seal the Mag? It'll have more output sealed than two Type-R 12's sealed will.

[FocusedOnSound 0]

really? I thought that 24" of cone area vs 15" would make a big difference

[Guest zedman]

But there are variables you are not taking into account.

[Acidburn 10]

really? I thought that 24" of cone area vs 15" would make a big difference

Never taken geometry I assume?

2 12"s will have ~226 in^2 of surface area

1 15" will have ~177 in^2 of surface area

[ford302redneck 15]

really? I thought that 24" of cone area vs 15" would make a big difference

Never taken geometry I assume?

2 12"s will have ~226 in^2 of surface area

1 15" will have ~177 in^2 of surface area

People don't realize this.

[FocusedOnSound 0]

I do realize that, that is why I was saying that the 2-12's will have a larger area. I figured that such a large increase of surface area would greatly contribute to more output, but I do not know nearly as much about car audio as others. What are some of the other factors that will apparently makes the 15 louder than 2-12's

[Acidburn 10]

I do realize that, that is why I was saying that the 2-12's will have a larger area. I figured that such a large increase of surface area would greatly contribute to more output, but I do not know nearly as much about car audio as others. What are some of the other factors that will apparently makes the 15 louder than 2-12's

The Mag is just a far better sub than the Type-R

And you were correct in assuming 2 12"s have more surface area than 1 15" but it's not because 24>15.

[ford302redneck 15]

Id take 1 15 Mag over 2 12 Type-rs everyday, twice on Tuesdays.

Better all around.

[Mark LaFountain 1,054]

Id take 1 15 Mag over 2 12 Type-rs everyday, twice on Tuesdays.

Better all around.

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[FocusedOnSound 0]

ok well i guess that seals the deal, unless i wanna be stupid. I really do love the mag too. I've just had the same set up for nearly 3 years and wanted to change it up. but I would be pretty pissed if it didn't sound as good, which according to y'alls, it wont. Thanks

[Aaron Clinton 2,372]

Id take 1 15 Mag over 2 12 Type-rs everyday, twice on Tuesdays.

Better all around.

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[///M5 2,833]

So change it up by building a new box. Once you ahve a woofer that is of the quality of the Mag that is the best change-up you can do.

[thedukey42 0]

So change it up by building a new box. Once you have a woofer that is of the quality of the Mag that is the best change-up you can do.

This is becoming a thread of agreement, lol.

What right now are you not happy with? What about the mag makes you want to change it? Is it output or sound quality?

[FocusedOnSound 0]

It's not that im not happy with any parts of it. I just never really had another decent set-up and wanted to see how something else sounds (wow it sounds like im talking about a girl here). Maybe looking for a little more punch in rock. It sounds awesome with rap and techno, but seems to lack a little quick punch and tends to sound boomier with rock music.

[t money 0]

like mentioned already keep the Mag 15, it'll get louder sealed than two type r 12's sealed, and still be more accurate(punchy). When it comes to sealed boxes subwoofers with more displacement tend to get louder in sealed boxes. To determine a subs displacement you would take the "sd" and multiply it by the "xmax" than multiply by 2. So that would mean the type r 12 displaces 1.75L while the Mag 15 displaces 4.21L, so even with two type r 12's, one Mag 15 displaces more than two type r 12's. So the Mag has the ability to get louder while sounding cleaner in a sealed box. I would recommend around 2.8cf sealed after displacement.

[coffikat03 0]

stick with the mag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i know 3 people who have type r's who wish they wouldent have bought them, two of them have them for sale and cant sell them!

[nstaln 0]

I had the new style Type R and it sounded like $hit. Tried it small sealed, large sealed and large ported. It sounded like small $hit, Large $hit and ported $hit. Stick with the Mag. I currently run a 15(TC Sounds TC3K) sealed and I love it! It gets loud, goes low, and it quite accurate. If you want more "punch", go sealed and beef up your front end midbass.

[jonbearsmt 919]

i heard 1 15 type r in about 2.5 cubes tuned at 35 hrz with 1200 watts and it wasent bad.. i would not trade my bl for one.. but its not that bad