My first "real" system

[KoolDrew 0]

Right now I have cheap Duals from best buy, so this is why I call this my first "real" system.

Originally I had no idea what I was looking for, just that I wanted good sound quality since its a daily driver and I wanted it LOUD. I ran across a few choices and like the AudioQ HDC3's, but I figured I'd go with the FI Q's instead as I've heard they get pretty loud while still sounding extremely good. Heard great things about FI as a company as well.

I am driving a 00 4-door sunfire so fitting a very large box isn't really going to happen. I have enough trunk space to fit a larger box to fit two 12's (maybe), but the problem is getting it into the trunk. So my options are either one 12" or two 10's. I have decided on going with two 10's and building a decently sized box for them, split up into two seperate chambers, one for each sub.. both within the recommended cubic footage. I'm only going to be picking up one 10" for now, but buying another one later down the road.

I think I will be powering each Fi Q 10" (with BP power option @ 2 Ohm) with a Crunch GP2500D as they seem like really nice amps for a decent price, and if I decide I need an amp for component speakers I'll pick up a GP4100 (since I'm going with a GP for the subs, figured I'd do the same for components), which I'm assuming should be plenty for the current Sony Xplodes component speakers I have and any upgrades in the future. What do you guys think?

As for a deck, I think I'm picking up a Pioneer AVIC-D3. Everything sound good for components? Looking for input from other people running FI Q's. Thanks in advance!

[jonbearsmt 919]

fi Q's are nice, but if you want plent of low end, i would say run one bl 12 or one bl 15 if ur up to it!....... as far as the amp ....Crunch.... stear clear of that mess...

whats your price range for amps..... and then your price range for subs. well get back to the sonys later

[KoolDrew 0]

I can't run fit a single 15" in my trunk. I can either fit one 12 or two 10's. Also, one thing that just caught my eye with the Q is the lower frequency response. It seems a lot of people are recommending going with the BL's rather than the Q though, but then other people recommending the Q over the BL. I like loud, but I'm just afraid I'm not gonna like the sound quality. I want something really loud inside and outside the car with a lot of air pressure and "punching" but at the same with with good sound quality since im putting a DVD navigation system in and really like to enjoy my music.

You think 2 10" BL's is my best option? Would those two be better than 1 12"? Also, any recommendations on amps? I just don't want to spend a ton of money, but ~$500 for an amp is reasonable I guess. I'd like to go cheaper, but I don't really want to sacrifice my system just because I wanted to go cheaper. Something that will definitely give the subs enough to work to their full potential. Price range for subs is the same idea, dont want to spend stupid money, but dont want to skimp either. The $300 price of the BP Power Q seemed like a decent price. I couldn't afford two at once, but I was planning on running one and then adding another later when I got the money.

Edited January 6, 2008 by KoolDrew

[rugdnit 1]

I can't run fit a single 15" in my trunk. I can either fit one 12 or two 10's. Also, one thing that just caught my eye with the Q is the lower frequency response. It seems a lot of people are recommending going with the BL's rather than the Q though, but then other people recommending the Q over the BL. I like loud, but I'm just afraid I'm not gonna like the sound quality. I want something really loud inside and outside the car with a lot of air pressure and "punching" but at the same with with good sound quality since im putting a DVD navigation system in and really like to enjoy my music.

You think 2 10" BL's is my best option? Would those two be better than 1 12"? Also, any recommendations on amps? I just don't want to spend a ton of money, but ~$500 for an amp is reasonable I guess. I'd like to go cheaper, but I don't really want to sacrifice my system just because I wanted to go cheaper. Something that will definitely give the subs enough to work to their full potential. Price range for subs is the same idea, dont want to spend stupid money, but dont want to skimp either. The $300 price of the BP Power Q seemed like a decent price. I couldn't afford two at once, but I was planning on running one and then adding another later when I got the money.

Sundown SAE-1000D???

[jonbearsmt 919]

yeah the sundown would be a much much much much better amp!

the biggest things i looked for when i chose my BLs was that, the Q's are great subs, but thay also are able to be sealed,.. and when i stepped up to FI AUDIO, i wanted to run vented and tuned, and MORE POWER, the bls are a great sub and the Q's are good,

i think 1 bl 12' vented would be great,.,... but do this go to you tube,,, type in FI CAR AUDIO and check out some vids,

[creatormass 1]

The BL's are a great sub, but those aren't designed for sound quality, hence the Q series. The BL's will pound a lot more than the Q's, but they may not sound as good depending on the music styles you listen to.

[KoolDrew 0]

The BL's are a great sub, but those aren't designed for sound quality, hence the Q series. The BL's will pound a lot more than the Q's, but they may not sound as good depending on the music styles you listen to.

I listen to mostly rap, and some rock.

I think I'm going with the Q. Sound quality is important and compared to my Duals I'm guessing it will be a LOT louder. I figure if I build the enclosure well it should get pretty loud while sounding extremely good, which is what I'm after. So I think I'd definitely be happy with them. So does two 10" Q's with a Sundown SAE-1000D powering each sound like a plan?

Edited January 7, 2008 by KoolDrew

[soundmekanixdan 0]

Sounds awesome! Sundown is an awesome company too - great customer service, great amps.....I went with sundown this year as well, cant wait to install my amps!!! That sundown 1000 on each should be damn near perfect!......let us know how it turns out and post pics of the instal when you can.

[soundmekanixdan 0]

be sure to post on the sundown forum too

[rugdnit 1]

i cannot speak for the Q, but when i was trying to decide between the SSD Copper Coil or the Q- i had alot of people chime in and give the SSD CC a solid nod of approval and so far i can say that i am glad that i came here for some help. don't think that because, the SSD is Fi's opening price subwoofer that it is just an entry level Me2 product. for 2 bills this thing is hard to beat.

[muddybass 13]

i just installed my 2 12'' q's and they knock hard as chit but still havent had enough time to break them in, the sae-1000d is underpowering them subs by alot especially if ur including the bp power which puts 200-500 more handling power, i have 2 pdx 1000.1 amps on my 12's and they love the power... as for a deck dont get me wrong pioneer is good but if you want to control your system go with alpine decks, and what kind of box are you gonna put them in sealed or ported? mines ported and still has all the sound quality in mine..

[Big Shot 0]

I have a 15" Q with BP Power option. It's in a 4ft^3 box tuned to 28hz and I love it. It's being powered by a KX1200.1 amp rated at 1450 watts and i run it all day without problems. I'm going to buy three more Q's and power them up with a RF T4000bd so the Kicker KX1200.1 amp/s are for sale. PM me if you're interested. Here's the link...

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...showtopic=12950

[Jpm4536 0]

Why not just go with a 12 if sound quality and getting loud is what you are after? It will also cost half as much.... Thats something else to think about.... 2 subs and an amp thats 2 times as powerful vs 1 larger sub and an amp that is half as powerful.... That will leave you with money to get rid of the sony speakers and deaden your doors....

[KoolDrew 0]

Why not just go with a 12 if sound quality and getting loud is what you are after? It will also cost half as much.... Thats something else to think about.... 2 subs and an amp thats 2 times as powerful vs 1 larger sub and an amp that is half as powerful.... That will leave you with money to get rid of the sony speakers and deaden your doors....

Wouldn't two 10's be louder than one 12 though?

Also, I think I may just get the SAZ-1500D because the RMS rating @ 1 Ohm is 1500w and run each sub off of that. However, a friend of mine said I may not want to go 1 Ohm because it will be more demanding on my electrical system and with the money spent beefing it up, I'd be better off getting an amp that can supply around that at 2 Ohms. Any thoughts? I don't want to underpower my subs at all.

Edited January 8, 2008 by KoolDrew

[Lord Baccus 1]

i ran the SAZ 1500d with a stock charging system and 2x Batcap 800 and did a 153.4db

pushing these 2 ss t4 15" subs

youll be just fine... just a a good battery neer the amp

[KickinAudio 5]

Whoa, what an absolute mess ^^

Ugly is usually loud though..

[KoolDrew 0]

So I'm assuming everybody thinks my plan of 2x SAZ-1500D's and 2x 10" FI Q's is a good one?

[lee 2]

one 1500 seems fine to me with 2 10s

[KoolDrew 0]

one 1500 seems fine to me with 2 10s

How so? The RMS on the subs is 1000w each and the amp puts out 1500w @ 1Ohm. Wouldn't that be 500w underpowered? If I get the Q'a with the BP option (which I plan on doing), wouldn't that make them even more underpowered?

Also, say I was able to fit a 15", two 12's, one 12, or two 10's. Which would be loudest? The problem is, I think I'll have trouble using as much of my trunk as possible because there's the issue of actually getting it into the car. The fact that mine is a four door makes fitting a box through the door very difficult, and a large box is definitely not fitting through the trunk, which is why I think to ensure I don't have any problems I should just go with two 10's or one 12.

Edited January 9, 2008 by KoolDrew

[muddybass 13]

its not always the sub that get the loudest ive seen 10's hit 150+ dbs, its the box

[jonbearsmt 919]

drew... i understand that your used to buying amps that say 2000 watts on them.. but your only able to power 1 sony 12'......... once you step in to the true world of audio,... it becomes a lil old school, you see the GOOD OLE AMPS> were underrated. and while being underrated thay were also mesured at 4 ohms... and not 1 ohm... so a 200 watt amp at 4 ohms is accutaly like 900 watts at 1 ohm... with the right power behind it.//// what im trying to tell you. the sundown is underated. remeber i told you to reserch the amp on here.. well look around.. and you will see the test results... and you will see that it is underrated..... i love FI audio. but if you drop a sundown 1500 watt at 1 ohm on 1 Q10 its over...... guys i know used 2 sundown 1500s straped 1 ohm each amp so its like .50 to power 2 15's BL's...........

2 10 Q's 1 sundown 1500 will be more then you dream

and if what ole boys said about his set up as far as the 1500 under powering his subs.. those were 12's and and ask him if he has done the big three.... and if not what size wire he is running.. ill tell you little things like that will, rob your amp and distroy it, and or your subs.......