Kicker EQs and active crossovers a good idea?

[SilviaVsSupra 0]

my setup will be a 3way setup for my front stage consisting of;

8"(undecided) in doors

4" CDT gold 2way set in kicks

12" iCONs in trunk

HU is kenwood DDX7017 (somethin like that)

amps will all be kicker(undecided on models)

so my question is; is the KX3 3-way active crossover from kicker a good option? if not what would be better?

im debating on also putting a set of some 6.5 midbass drivers in the panel next to my door for a bit of rear fill, i know its not most peoples taste, but my 3way setup is worrying me about missing some fill. if i decided to use those rears would u just use the 2way crossover as well as the 3way for the front?

is there anything im missing? thanks for the help

should i use 2 2-channel amps? one for the 8"s and the other for the CDTs?

[todd.brust 29]

first off...the CDTs are passively crossover, correct? and if that's the case you would cross them over highpass-CDTs, Bandpass-8", and the lowpass would be iCons?

it all depends what your are going for...and it all depends on the characteristics of your speakers...

personally i would eliminate all passive x-overs(i still have to do this) and run everything active...i.e.cdt tweets highpass, cdt 4" mid, and the 8" lowpass(i would almost go with a 6.5 personally)

and then run your sub off a different set out outputs

[todd.brust 29]

first off...the CDTs are passively crossover, correct? and if that's the case you would cross them over highpass-CDTs, Bandpass-8", and the lowpass would be iCons?

it all depends what your are going for...and it all depends on the characteristics of your speakers...

personally i would eliminate all passive x-overs(i still have to do this) and run everything active...i.e.cdt tweets highpass, cdt 4" mid, and the 8" lowpass(i would almost go with a 6.5 personally)

and then run your sub off a different set out outputs

but doing what i said would require another channel of amplification just kind of realized that...but what you are talking about will definitely work...i might just use 6.5s instead of 8s...

are your trying to set-up a soundstage or just want louder highs and midbass and whatnot?

[JimJ 11]

Get rid of the crossovers, you need six channels of amplification, doesn't really matter how you get there. As long as the Kicker gear has good noise figures and the crossover adjustability you want, I don't see a reason not to use it.

[SilviaVsSupra 0]

the goal is just good quality sound, im not competing SQ. its my daily and im trying to get the most volume without losing quality, but i want full range, my last system lacked midrange completely(why i decided to use 8")

JimJ- are you saying to use a channel for every set of speakers? as in run three 2-channels for the front? i doubt it that but thats what it sounds like.. a single 2 channel will power 4" and tweets, but without any crossovers at all theres gonna be some problems..

can you be a little more specific?

[ANeonRider 3]

You need a channel for every speaker.

[SilviaVsSupra 0]

so maybe something like the Audiocontrol "Epicenter" or "DQL-8/DQXS" would be more of what im looking for?

from what im understanding i need to split the preout signal into 6 channels and then amp each of them seperately, correct?

ie; HU front-> procesor -> left midbass \

> 2channel amp -> 8"s

-> right midbass /

-> left mid \

> 2channel amp -> mids

-> right mid /

-> left tweet \

> 2channel amp -> tweets

-> right tweet /

so no crossovers needed if the EQ/Processor can handle it instead..

i hope thats right! =)

[JimJ 11]

That's the general idea...although you don't need three two-channels, a four channel and a 2 would work just as well, or a single 6 channel...like I said before, doesn't really matter how you get there but that's what you need to be able to independently control them.

[todd.brust 29]

who makes good 6 channels anyways?

i was temped to buy an older A/D/S 6 channel but i never jumed at the oppourtunity

[JimJ 11]

ADS made some good stuff, DLS makes a good 7 channel, Eclipse has a 6 I believe, pretty sure Helix and Brax do as well.

None of them are cheap

[SilviaVsSupra 0]

so something like the audiocontrol DQX or DQXS or even the matrix would suit me better no?

[///M5 2,833]

"better" is relative and subjective. If you were me and spending that much already, I'd get a different headunit that controls one. H701 is your friend.

[SilviaVsSupra 0]

yes, that is deffinately one hell of a unit, il have to sit down and organise where the money is worth spending between 1000+ for the alpine goodies, or hybrid audio speakers..

is there a way to use the h701 with another HU? if i could use a 2nd alpine monitor as a controler for the h701 in standalone mode, that would be well worth it for me, theres a pocket ontop of my center dash calling me for a nice 7" lcd, processor controls would be o so perfect!- im using a kenwood excelon ddx7015 (wich i hate might i add)

[ANeonRider 3]

Only HUs that control the H701 are Alpine (all of the current HUs with toslink output)

You can use other HUs with it, but then you will need the C701 module to control. I would not recommend using a HU with the H701 that does not have toslink output though. Would be a step backwards.

[///M5 2,833]

Easy solution, get rid of the Kenwood.

[SilviaVsSupra 0]

IVA-D310 $800

PXA-H701 $500

selling my kenwood +$400

damn i wish i carried alpine..

maybe il pick up one of the last DD units, like the w200 to save a couple bucks..

[SilviaVsSupra 0]

H701 and W200 ordered.... end of this convo

[///M5 2,833]

you won't regret it!

[ANeonRider 3]

Yah!