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I recently just purchased a set of Rainbow Germaniums (150w RMS) and a Profi 12" subwoofer (DVC 2ohm - 50~350w RMS). Currently I have eD amps in my car (9.2 & 9.1) and I've heard alot of great things about Sundown amps. The SAX-100.4 caught my eye after seeing pictures of it, but not sure if it's gonna work with my setup. If I run Channels 1-2 to my Germaniums and have Channels 3-4 to my sub (needs to be 2ohm if possible), would this be a possible setup?? I know the Germaniums will not get the power it needs @ 100x2, but if I bridged the 100.4, then that is way too much power for them. Also, how many watts will the Profi sub be getting if I bridged the rear channels?

My system is still a work-in-progress, so not sure how I want to power my speakers...

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Or I guess the best thing to do would get a SAX-100.2 to run the Germaniums and a SAE-1000D to run the Profi 12" @ 2ohm. That might be the best setup. Just wondering if the Sundown amps will be an upgrade coming from eD amps??

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* NINE.2 Internal Photo

SAX-1002_internals_SML.jpg

* SAX-100.2 Internal Photo

Use your judgment :) You don't have to be an expert to see the difference here.

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As for the SAE-1000D to the NINE.1 -- the NINE.1 is actually a more powerful amplifier, so swapping here doesn't make as much sense.

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sundownz, looking at both amps internals, the SAX-100.2 does seem to look alot better than the NINe.2. Also, do you think using a 100.4 biamped would be a good route to go with the Germaniums? Right now I have the Profi sub running at 2ohms from the NINe.1 (gains set accordingly). I know that is 300w more than the SAE-1000D, but I don't need that much power for my current setup + I like to change things up a bit as well.

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sundownz, looking at both amps internals, the SAX-100.2 does seem to look alot better than the NINe.2. Also, do you think using a 100.4 biamped would be a good route to go with the Germaniums? Right now I have the Profi sub running at 2ohms from the NINe.1 (gains set accordingly). I know that is 300w more than the SAE-1000D, but I don't need that much power for my current setup + I like to change things up a bit as well.

I am a huge fan of bi-amping, and I feel that you would love the results :) This will give you much more flexibility to fine tune the crossover point and the tweeter level. I would say go for it 100% if it's in your budget.

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i would say also that switchinf your sub amp wouldn't really give you a noticeable gain. if you're concerned with the power just turn the gain down a little bit. and can some explain exactly what biamping is lol. i think i know what it is but i want to be sure.

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sundownz, looking at both amps internals, the SAX-100.2 does seem to look alot better than the NINe.2. Also, do you think using a 100.4 biamped would be a good route to go with the Germaniums? Right now I have the Profi sub running at 2ohms from the NINe.1 (gains set accordingly). I know that is 300w more than the SAE-1000D, but I don't need that much power for my current setup + I like to change things up a bit as well.

There's a like-new 100.2 for sale right now. ;)

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i would say also that switchinf your sub amp wouldn't really give you a noticeable gain. if you're concerned with the power just turn the gain down a little bit. and can some explain exactly what biamping is lol. i think i know what it is but i want to be sure.

bi amping is using 2 amplifiers on each set of components, one would be for the tweeters, one for the mids. The passive crossovers on some component sets will allow that to happen.

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that's what i thought. you could technically use a four chanel to do the front stage that way as well then right??

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i dont know about the germainiums but my older profi's cant be biamped.

though iirc the 100.4 can bandpass the rear. in which case you could run active. if so i would definately do that. you would gain back the power lost from the passives. just be careful not to pop a tweeter

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that's what i thought. you could technically use a four chanel to do the front stage that way as well then right??

Yes.

i dont know about the germainiums but my older profi's cant be biamped.

though iirc the 100.4 can bandpass the rear. in which case you could run active. if so i would definately do that. you would gain back the power lost from the passives. just be careful not to pop a tweeter

I recall that channels 1&2 may be HP from 50Hz-5kHz and LP from 30Hz-250Hz, making it suitable for your treble section. Channels 3&4 may be HP from 50Hz-1kHz and LP from 50Hz-5kHz, thus making it quite suitable for your midrange/midbass (yes, the HP and LP combination allows you to bandpass the midrange). Wonderful flexibility.

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