why did amp makers get cheep ?

[JimJ 11]

as of now i have a Kove Audio Aphex Ax1 great for keeping the signwave liner

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[///M5 2,833]

That Kove piece makes absolutely no sense to me. Neither does your response to what you quoted me on. 10v won't help you. If you truly want a good processor get either the P9 combo or the Alpine H701/Rux combo.

[ANeonRider 3]

Alot of amps cannot handle a 10V input...

[Supa_c 1]

That h/u is old

I reciently looked up the specs on the kenwood Kdc-X979...top model

compared to the eclipses, pioneers and alpines ive had of the same year, the kenwood is a pile of junk.

Horrible EQ, Stupid features ( speaker size) and other things like that.

Honestly, your problem is your headunit.

All high end h/u's out now have pretty much infinite options as far as crossovers go.

Yes, they have preset frequencies, but 6-24dB slopes can help that.

[Lord Baccus 1]

as of now i have a Kove Audio Aphex Ax1 great for keeping the signwave liner

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sorry it is what is quoted in the discription of the user manual

as for wanting higher voltage on the pre outs. i just thought it would be nice not to have to turn the gain on the amp as high to get the bass responce ( shirt ripplling ) ( hair trick )...

as for the Hu it was the best thing i could afford @ the time

any suggestions are welcome... i looked @ eclipse / alpine / others but all there pimpin is the Ipod/bluethooth features... which i could care less about...

[Supa_c 1]

if all you can see is ipod and bluetooth you are obviously stuck in your ways and cant get over the fact that there are other better features out there.

[JimJ 11]

i looked @ eclipse / alpine / others but all there pimpin is the Ipod/bluethooth features... which i could care less about...

Not the higher end ones...

i just thought it would be nice not to have to turn the gain on the amp as high to get the bass responce ( shirt ripplling ) ( hair trick )...

As long as the output is unclipped, it really doesn't matter.

[almond 0]

except for the what 9 models of alpine the have active three ways crossovers an true time alignment?? on the one model eclipse that also has three way crossovers and TA or the other eclipse that has a two way crossovers and TA?? you need to do a little more research brother man.

most top decks have 7-16 band parametric eq's. and if you're me lol you would have a 4 way parametric eq.

Edited August 30, 2007 by almond

[Lord Baccus 1]

if all you can see is ipod and bluetooth you are obviously stuck in your ways and cant get over the fact that there are other better features out there.

i just glimpsed @ the features list and i saw very lil in the way of control & pre out info

please suggest a few higher end units

ill be happy to have a look

i love change things only get better that way ! well most of the time anyway

[ANeonRider 3]

Glance at owner's manuals next time... crutchfield has them for download.

[Lord Baccus 1]

except for the what 9 models of alpine the have active three ways crossovers an true time alignment?? on the one model eclipse that also has three way crossovers and TA or the other eclipse that has a two way crossovers and TA?? you need to do a little more research brother man.

most top decks have 7-16 band parametric eq's. and if you're me lol you would have a 4 way parametric eq.

please suggest a few good units

i was looking at the SS DigiQ what do ya think of it ?

http://www.soundstream.com/processors-ALL.htm

seems like it would cover all the bases

[///M5 2,833]

That looks useless for your application and won't do anything for you.

[almond 0]

straight from ///M5

Alpine 9811, 9813, 9815, 9833, 9835, 9855, 9887

Pio 880prs, 9800

Eclipse 8053, 8443, 8454, 8455, 7000, 7100

Clarion 9255

[///M5 2,833]

/\ not a complete list, just what was on the top of my head when responding to almond's PM.

[Lord Baccus 1]

any of those you prefer over another ?

[///M5 2,833]

Yes, but remember I don't use pause and don't care about SPL so it may be fruitless to ask me. I still am not sure what your goals are here. This thread started out ripping amps for a tool they have that you don't like and is evolving into a discussion about available processing. Considering you hardly use any of the processing I don't understand what you need it for in the first place.

[Lord Baccus 1]

your right i guess to summerize:

i need some form of control over the freq: to the amps .

was thinking of getting a parametric eq or something along those lines...

someone suggested the Hu control factor... after i mentioned my KDC-x979 sub pre out had failed after 3 yrs of abuse !?!

i have gotten up to 151db think i shook it to death

im way into SPL, but when not competing i have a box for SQ (32HZ)

iv never gone strictlly SQ as i really like being able to drownd out the car next to me ! or for that matter 4 blocks from me

i think its safe to say 4 - 15" dont quallify as SQ but i have a desire to hear my mids & highs, i like to hear the words as well as the bassline.

my PPi Pc 4800 is really nice for pushing the smaller speakers.

i am open to suggestion as i am allways looking for a better way to gitterdone...

Edited August 31, 2007 by Lord Baccus

[///M5 2,833]

i need some form of control over the freq: to the amps .

was thinking of getting a parametric eq or something along those lines...

Here is why we have an issue.

A parametric eq will not control what frequencies go to which amp channel. They will only boost (please don't) or cut (yes) frequencies to clean up the response in vehicle. You need a crossover. Of course, personally I prefer crossovers that are built into headunits.

In your case, I would either get a new headunit or take the advice in this thread on how to set the crossover on your amplifiers by ear.

[almond 0]

or buy something audio contro that will also control the frequencies for you, but if you're in the market for a new h/u it would be cheaper just to spend a little more for an active h/u. the eclipse cd8445 can be had for cheap nowadays because it is kind of old, but they are still awsome decks, that will give you active sub crossover and mids, the cd8455 can do three way active.

[ANeonRider 3]

You can get the Alpine 981X series decks for uber-cheap now. Wasnt expensive to begin with.

[Lord Baccus 1]

New HU it is

ill look into the 8445 and the alpine asap...

making payments on new truck is killing my wallet...

[///M5 2,833]

The 8445 in my book is the bastard child of Eclipses and the one I avoid. For your needs it will be fine though. For mine it is the only old school 8 series Eclipse that doesn't include full 3 way crossovers. (considering it is limited there I am not sure of what the EQ is like either). Considering your bass desires I do like the Eclipses since they will give you a parametric eq which should give you the flexibility you need to dial in your subs.