Shogen

no and then! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7luMp6lb9M

welcome sir!!!

lol... no need to apologize but as far as how you mentioned you original post honestly either driver could fit your needs... If you know that you want insane rattling and boom boom, I think people will guide you towards BL.. I'm not looking for insane output when I pick a driver... If it can shake my mirrors a bit and sound amazing with whatever note of bass it is given, that is the driver I pick... The Icon fit my bill so far, and I'm getting a ported enclosure built to SSA spec soon so I can see what I like more... The driver is in my car to stay... So, you have to decide what is more important, notes or output.. The Q apparently hits all the notes with a tighter punch from reviews/threads I have read and it can get crazy loud depending on the enclosure you use... The BL threads I don't frequent much since the driver is meant for a different setup type than I was totally interested in. Here are the descriptions direct from Fi's website about the goals each driver was meant for: Q: The Q Series of subwoofers is our sound quality reference line. Featuring a hefty high strength single magnet motor structure with a heavily bumped t-yoke, the 27mm of Xmax allows for incredibly detailed, tight, and powerful bass. Triple progressive spiders keep the incredible linear excursion of this sub under control, while the extra heavy lead wire feeds the giant voice coil. With technology pulled from the larger BTL line the new Q has more options than ever before. Hyper chamfer, full cooling, high or low Qts topologies, as well as the ability to add an inductance ring in the high Qts design, there is now even more flexibility within the Q platform. Working well in both small ported and sealed enclosures, you do not have to give up your trunk to have strong bottom octave foundation for the rest of your system. The Q series is the new bottom octave benchmark. BL: The BL Series fills the gap between the all out SPL monster and a solid daily driver. Featuring a chamfered solid pole piece and standard double stack motor structure with 8.660" magnets as the foundation for a truly tough subwoofer, you can choose from a variety of options to custom tailor the sub for your exact application. With the addition of the hyper chamfer, or our patent pending heli-cooling channels along with the Daily option, you can bump up the subs thermal capacity for long term daily driving abuse. Looking for an ultra tough SPL sub? Choose the SPL option, the extreme lead wire, one of the 8 layer aluminum flatwind voicecoils, add power, and let it rip. With head cracking upper bass and brutal low end, the BL handles the extremes with ease.

Usually they only list "USED" items if they are available.. I guess it does no harm to ask but the first post is apparently what they have for sale, which might mean they do not have a SAX-1200d laying around to be sold.. but maybe you'll luck out and someone at sundown just ain't using one they have... GL

Yes, that amplifier would be nicer overall in features and design for your subwoofer man... be conservative on gains... it has an adjustable SSF which is really something you want for a ported enclosure, so you can dial in the exact cutoff frequency you want.

If it was me I'd go for the Q, the reason why most people end telling people to "just go for the BL" is because they are actually looking for high output without sounding like a fart cannon, not because the BL is better than the Q. It terms of objectives, the Q is meant to be more of a better sound output with great volume and the BL more output advantage with a good overall sound.. Again, the things I mentioned in my above post matter and should be more of a factor than just the driver itself...

you should do a search on the forum... But things you should mention are what box type you will use, amp you are using, car you are driving. If people want to help you out and you want people to help you out, you should give a bit more info...

Was that a car cover in the window or your shirt??? lmao... For reals, crazy flex... awesome stuff man!

looks sick... you gonna carpet that box up???

Reason being that it was a joke... lulz...

I'd take the gain down even from where you have it now... Hopefully someone can chime in and offer other solutions rather than getting a different amplifier...

oh sry Cable.. that isn't possible...

Also, OP.. careful with that setup, your amp SSF is fixed at 25hz...

very nice box! lovely truck!

beautiful house man.... congrats!

Nice! Saving photo....... transaction complete.

Umm... lolz... I know that part... Problem was this happened while I was driving... Leaf debris flew up into the engine compartment and made its way up to the alternator charging bolt... Smelled smoke... Pulled over, opened hood.. see red on alternator, look closer... gust of wind and POOF!! Flames for funsies!!!

nice... can you make the SSA 1920*1200... or something similar? I'd rock some dark tones with SSA logo as my wallpaper..

Yea, well apparently alternators easily make dry leaves into flames... especially when they get trapped between the rubber boot that should be covering the charging bolt... Found this out on the NJ Turnpike ... Not a good thing at 2am coming from NYC...

too sexy... I'd put out for a ride in that truck... no homo of course...

HOLY!!!

understatement... Heat is the devil to all electronics... there is nothing worse in the world than heat build up on a component no matter the task it is intended for.. Good luck with your situation holley... hopefully it is quick..

it does look insane though... sexy at the same time...

Is that real??? Looks like a really well done photoshop of that Porsche