///M5

I'd also much rather buy an 8 year old car with 50k than with 10k

We have no plans, so it's waaaaay too easy to justify for me.Why not a 2 door then? Almost always easier to get in for us undersized guys.It's totally on the menu. 100% I just cannot find anything with 50000 miles or so that is $30000 Does the car explode at 50k?No. But it is indicative of wear.I would much, much, much, much rather buy a P-car that has 80k and a meticulous owner than 50k and a non. So much so it isn't even fucking close.

Speaking of. I spent nearly 2 hours on a Ipad today at the airport. What a fucking pile of shit. I didn't realize how much Jobs meant to Apple. They are seriously going to be fucktied if they don't start innovating quick. My damn 1 year old shitty phone's interface is WAY fucking better. I am even more dumbfounded by the sheep that follow to the Apple stores now. Seriously shocking.

We have no plans, so it's waaaaay too easy to justify for me.Why not a 2 door then? Almost always easier to get in for us undersized guys.It's totally on the menu. 100% I just cannot find anything with 50000 miles or so that is $30000 Does the car explode at 50k?

Did autotrader change their software to sucks butt at sometime today. Looks like it was written for an apple now, fucking doesn't work.<br />

Then the question becomes do you want the first year?

Wondering if I didn't miss by a year and post 996's. 2005 is the first 7 no?

Through the lowry with windows down at redline!

We have no plans, so it's waaaaay too easy to justify for me. Why not a 2 door then? Almost always easier to get in for us undersized guys.

Hey, I plopped up some 4S 997's yesterday that were under $35 IIRC

You guys are never in the chat after bumping the thread.<br /><br />Could just use the hop

Crap, sorry to hear that. I just was a bit shocked to see a bottle. At 1.5 ours refused it and only wanted to drink out of glasses, not even sippy cups. He does get a sippy cup of water at night, but that's it. Our other child wasn't that way though. Surprising how different they all are.

I'm shocked at how nasty bad ass that E60 gets when power is on and S mode is ready. I didn't let them spin, but I could have made the whole test drive sideways. Despite the TQ advantage the E55 and E63 Benz feel tame. I think the suspension is just kinder to the tires on Benz. The M5 is much more intense. It also feels lighter and tighter though. I think your memory is old. The E55 is the nastiest of the three, BY FAR, then the E63 then the E60. The E60 has by far the best suspension though and is much better at pounding corners, but from an engine standpoint the E60 is rather tame until you really make it spin. I drove all three back to back to back and couldn't believe how soft the E60 felt.The E55 I took for a walk must have been neutered. I could spin the tires, but it didn't feel like power. I kept the v10 spinning high for my little trip, I have become much more bold when test driving and I pound corners hard now. A friend who I usually go car browsing with has frequently mentioned he hates how hard I corner. In the explorer the sales guy and my buddy had white hands. I can only imagine if they had been there for the M5. One of the Dinan guys was with me in the X5M from Motorwerks. His comment was that the gas pedal seems to have an affinity for being planted when I drive. Said it was the most aggressive test drive that was in control he'd been on. Knew I wasn't buying it at the end and asked me to come back when they got something else fun in. The Jeep SRT I recently drove was similar. That guy was so nice I took him for a much nastier rip in the ML after.

If I didn't have kids...

Isn't a non-Turbo 997 just as quick as the M5?<br /><br />Can't you also find one for near $35?

And unfair misnomer on the free for me. I could trade not having a company car for about $350 post taxes per month. Be rather hard to buy a car and insure it for that though...and if I did and had some left, how much would I give up to have something nicer to drive.<br /><br />Always circles.

Exactly why I am not 100% sold on getting an 08 CTT myself. Car is free I ONLY pay maintenance...but I am still a bit queasy on the process.I can understand that. My desire for a nice car is so stupid. I wish I could get rid of it. It makes me really depressed. Too much of my energy is spent for my desire of something that is irrational. I should take the money for the car, buy a civic, part out the expedition and put the cash in an IRA. Dude, I am right there with you. If I don't buy a house by next spring I am pretty sure a Rossion will be in my garage. It is NOT what I should do.

All are quick enough though it takes a few drives before that wow feeling turns into something you can actually absorb. The sad thing is, no matter which you own a few months into that surprise feeling will be forgotten and replaced with a "hey this is normal". I actually think the Benz would get beyond that more only because of the opportunity to make it grunt comes easier and therefore more often.<br /><br />Sucks as I flat out don't trust the Benz from a reliability standpoint at all. Mine has been robust, but it isn't liking life beyond 80k miles so much

I'm shocked at how nasty bad ass that E60 gets when power is on and S mode is ready. I didn't let them spin, but I could have made the whole test drive sideways. Despite the TQ advantage the E55 and E63 Benz feel tame. I think the suspension is just kinder to the tires on Benz. The M5 is much more intense. It also feels lighter and tighter though. I think your memory is old. The E55 is the nastiest of the three, BY FAR, then the E63 then the E60. The E60 has by far the best suspension though and is much better at pounding corners, but from an engine standpoint the E60 is rather tame until you really make it spin. I drove all three back to back to back and couldn't believe how soft the E60 felt.

Exactly why I am not 100% sold on getting an 08 CTT myself. Car is free I ONLY pay maintenance...but I am still a bit queasy on the process.

That sucks. <img data-cke-saved-src="http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/sad.png" src="http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/sad.png" class="bbc_emoticon" title=":(" /><br /><br />...time to ween the bottle though

Have to say that is one pleasant surprise on the Benz. It doesn't eat tires like I am used to. BMW's and tires net me about 15k miles if I'm lucky.

Should drive an X5M as well. I am now curious on your take.

I didn't see the link Damnit...I didn't know the new A8 was such a champ. Sexy looking. That is because they always compare the A6 with the M5, but unlike BMW Audi makes their flagship their flagship. S8 is so much better than the 6

You sure the M5 is in your price range? Not saying you can't afford it, has nothing to do with that at all. Just like I could easily drive a Gallardo...but I can't afford to own it.<br /><br />This is exactly what I hate about all new cars. The integration of all the computer systems. Why the fuck can't you just have the tranny/engine integrated and leave the interior as stand alone.<br /><br />Going to really get things fucked up in the future as all the American companies are adopting the same things. And we can blame our stupid fucking president as well. CAFE standards can suck a big fat one.