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Do you still have snow?

Want to get it this weekend. Call me back bitches

I am trying to work a deal on a replacement sled for the wife. Not that she has ridden her last two sleds, lol.

Funny. They propagate not unlike sound waves.

Indeed you need legs to make Europe really worthwhile

Move = move btw. Motion = change of position of something with respect to time and a reference point Speaker definitely moves air. As to what you are trying to convey I don't think anyone is following as it seems contrary to the above.

If put a piece of tape on the end of a bound up slinky and then let it go does the tape move? Can you move in a sine wave without any velocity? Can you do a hair trick if the air isn't moving? Does water move when you push your hand through it? Do you need me to go on? The examples you have given arent that great. A better example would be putting a piece of tape on a part of a slinky and move one hand side to side. The energy transfers throug the slinky, making the slinky move to a certain extent, but once the energy dissipates the slinky will be in the same exact resting place as it was before the energy transfer, thus the tape would also be in the same place. Or, you could see it as a rope that is held on both ends, when someone moves one side up and down quickly you will see the rope form a wave of energy that is transfered from one end to the other, the rope itself will go back to the same resting place it was previously. That is how sound waves are transfered through mediums such as air.Maybe you should stop trying to read what isn't there. If you constrain the slinky in the stretch/compress direction it is akin to holding your speaker cone completely still. Perhaps when you move your hand through the water in a lake/bathtub/pool the water doesn't move in your mind, but I bet it is moving. And btw, sound is only transferred when it moves energy. Same with any wave. They are all kinetic. Curious in your example, did your hand 'move' the slinky? Han transfer energy to it, just as with the rope example. But if a sub moved air would it not create a vacuum? If so then how would the sound wave continue to travel past the vacuum? Apparently phsyics is completely incorrect about how sound travels.http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/sound/u11l1c.cfm I already know that. All im trying to say is that air is the medium with which the sound travels and basically, the medium does not move. All the medium does is transfer the energy. If you knew that you wouldn't have posted that speakers don't move air. Do waves in the ocean not move water? If the waves move water how are they different than acoustic waves?

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If put a piece of tape on the end of a bound up slinky and then let it go does the tape move? Can you move in a sine wave without any velocity? Can you do a hair trick if the air isn't moving? Does water move when you push your hand through it? Do you need me to go on? The examples you have given arent that great. A better example would be putting a piece of tape on a part of a slinky and move one hand side to side. The energy transfers throug the slinky, making the slinky move to a certain extent, but once the energy dissipates the slinky will be in the same exact resting place as it was before the energy transfer, thus the tape would also be in the same place. Or, you could see it as a rope that is held on both ends, when someone moves one side up and down quickly you will see the rope form a wave of energy that is transfered from one end to the other, the rope itself will go back to the same resting place it was previously. That is how sound waves are transfered through mediums such as air. Maybe you should stop trying to read what isn't there. If you constrain the slinky in the stretch/compress direction it is akin to holding your speaker cone completely still. Perhaps when you move your hand through the water in a lake/bathtub/pool the water doesn't move in your mind, but I bet it is moving. And btw, sound is only transferred when it moves energy. Same with any wave. They are all kinetic. Curious in your example, did your hand 'move' the slinky?

If put a piece of tape on the end of a bound up slinky and then let it go does the tape move? Can you move in a sine wave without any velocity? Can you do a hair trick if the air isn't moving? Does water move when you push your hand through it? Do you need me to go on?

Shit Matt, that sucks. Somewhat crippled myself as last week seriously effed my back up, but seems trivial compared to what you are dealing with.

Perhaps describe what happens when you try to make them keep up. Or define what you mean by they don't keep up. My definition of "keeping up" I bet is HUGELY different than yours. So far you've just stated they don't, we need to know what you mean by this to help. BTW, I will wager a guess, once you describe your difficulty it'll be the opposite of going with an SLS...but until you do that is only speculation.

First step is to determine the cause. It is ALWAYS best to learn with what you have. I'd start with processing and the speakers you have. "Harsh" isn't a determining factor that will lead towards a good driver recommendation. Of course, you can taper that and resolve it with the right processing so I'd start there.

My IQR can EASILY handle you. It is still capable of me taking it over 75' triple jumps, so an extra 100lbs or so is nothing.

/\ exactly. Not so much a rounding error but the fact that no manufacturer publishes all decimal places thus WinISD detects an error and says NO.

It is only hard to learn when the student chooses to not try. Frustration shows you are starting to try, it is a good sign. Do NOT build a door pod for the SLS and a 3" FR. That won't work. If the 3"ers are not 100% on axis you will need a tweeter meaning you are back to a 3 way. That you aren't ready for. At the same time I would avoid using the SLS completely at the moment as integration is going to create so many compromises it will seriously jack your learning curve. Personally I also wouldn't run that Clarion. The 80prs kills it for actual adjustments and learning. On top of that the crossovers that it "can" do even when used flipping the mid/sub are FAR from ideal for what you propose. What you should do is run your current set active and determine what about the sound you don't like. From there it will be very easy to look at your mounting locations and come up with a solution. Starting with the SLS has fail written all over it.

I made it through snowcheck without being emotional and spending money. Now to find a replacement for the wives sled.

Definitely the first on Fx

Or really close

About to watch a series premier for the first time in decades.

By separate I meant it doesnt matter what, not separate output. That is a no brainer. Just irregardless of what gain they shouldn't be treated in a similar manner....with of course the capability to blend.

Happy b-day!!

No, but interested in a solution. I regularly get pissed by dates. Never looked though.

<-- grew up in Moorhead Love my HID's btw.

For me, I've always set my settings at their "maximum" listening state. Because, the state of listening, can always change. And you always want to be able to turn down, not up. To give an example, you would set your gain level on your amplifier while the bass level on your headunit is set to zero (car on).That way, when you're driving under normal conditions, you can set the sub level on your headunit to -3 in this example. So when a buddy gets in for a demo, all you have to do is set your sub level on your radio back up to 0. Why leave something on the table? You can set so that at full tilt you are clipped like hell. Just use the volume control to compensate. I'm not sure I'm following? Lol. My advice for the OP is to simply set his gains to where they will be set at his maximum listening levels. That way during day to day listening, if he doesn't want to go balls to the walls with bass in particular, he can simply turn down the bass level on the radio up front, rather than parking on the side of the road, run to the back, and adjust gain levels. When you say use the volume control to compensate, I'm "assuming" that you're under the impression that if you wan less bass, then simply turn down the volume. The problem with this, if this is indeed what you meant to convey, is that, the volume knob in this example would be the master volume, in which case, not all users want a to turn down all sound at the same db level. I know many people that would simply listen to a good output level for the mids and highs, and only want enough bass to perform as simply as an subwoofer fill (enough bass to just know it's there), rather than drowning out the rest of the system. It's really hard to explain via text via mobile lol. Basically, some ppl just want moderate mids and highs with just a tad of bass added. I wouldn't ever separate gain setting on the sub from the front stage. My comment was you want headroom on the knob, so not your maximum but in a state that would be able to exceed it. Just have to beware.