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I've found no reliable sources showing mutation proof or reasonings behind...or info on surface staying length beyond 3 days. Not saying it isn't there but if it is I would like to read it. The most logical possibiliity is that it has been around for a bit, people have died under the guise of the flu, and then it gets publicized and the more we test really sick the more the really sick die. Places that test more show lower death rates than those that test less. Numbers skewed by non-synergized testing choices. I know a ton of people that had bad colds this winter...

Ours starts Friday

The math models severely underestimate the human response to stay alive

I don't trust Chinese news but I do trust colleagues and South Korean news. Singapore as well. All of those spaces test the fuck out of anything though and we seem too stupid to do that

I have a colleague that lives in Wuhan. They don't see shit for cases anymore. His boss is in Shanghai and they take precautions but neither see any evidence of propagation. They completely isolated the whole country and locked it down though

Dodging it while the hospital beds are in over demand is a good idea. China has nearly stopped it. Regrettably the western world can't do what China did. NY is about to get fucked up.

Currently I quarantine for 3 days and then say fuck it. Bought more yesterday though and am more concerned as the shit comes from elsewhere and I cna't just look at MN.

What I can't find is let's say someone with COVID sneezes on my carrots. What temp do I need to cook them to in order to eat it safely. Obviously 360 for 20min is not going to happen...

J I don't use antibacterial or sanitizer ever either. This shit is new to me. That being said for wave 1 I want no fucking part of Covid. Once the health system catches up and society has a brain I will worry less again.

I had to google who One America News Network was....but it was obvious without. More seriously both of these fucking parties need to be flushed. Fucking disgusting what they are doing and what they aren't.

If my choice were death or take it...I'd take it!

Made a grocery list today for the first time in years. Fucking 2 pages long. Is it hoarding to shop for a month? Especially if guaranteed I will use everything I buy in that month? Not buying multiples of really anything...

Got more than a dozen of those already myself.

Lol. Organic. I worked at a restaurant, we bleached glasses. Pretty sure it is common, but doing it at home just seems fucked.

Is a drop of soap enough? Apples, lettuce, bananas, etc. I live in the produce aisle. I am totally okay with washing everything including shit that I peel. I am okay with putting something aside for 3 days to let it rest. Just want to do what I can to protect my fmaily

Yummy?

How should one clean raw vegetables? ie, lettuce would be a great example.

They get ridiculous mileage and drive reasonably well

Corvette

Definitely focus on health. Separation is more for others than for you. Look at NY. They did do either. Making of Italy there. CA just told everyone to stay home. Part that scares me is if we don't do this unified it won't nip it everywhere. Close the borders and require everyone take a 2 week hiatus and it will be controlled. We have isolated ourselves completely even from my parents and siblings. Just focused on staying healthy and doing what we can to work from home and stay sane.

You can look at all of them and see how that should be th case for them but sadly isn't.

They aren't the problem as they are .01% of the population, but of course they are the ones that will be at risk to die. The bigger problem are the 100 or so asymptotic people that carry it around and give it to these people. Only way to stop the bug from wiping out those weakened for it is to make sure that the ones that aren't don't give it to them. As you stated the "I don't give a fuck" sorts will fuck up the process. As Singapore has proven you can avoid letting people die and avoid it from spreading. Their population is right on top of each other as well...but they pooled together to stop it. I was supposed to be there this week...Doh!

Of course, a rather large one at that. Also focused on the unknown of death, meaning of life, or however you want to describe it.

Our pre-preparation vs over reaction later is fucking horseshit. If we could truly test and understand we could put some science in the shit. Pretty much bet the mortality rate isn't very high as a percent of who actually gets it. Not saying I disagree it could easily over whelm our health care system...but so can any war.

The sole reason religion exists. Hasn't been not common for a long time.