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Has about the same eq as the 8053 in that it is a 5 band parametric. The Eclipse has more bands but I don't know how the separation is, 5 for "front" and 5 for "rear".

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Did my mail come?

I won't be driving by for a while as the next 5 weeks I have to be in: Cincinnati, Detroit, Chicago, LA, KC After that who knows where I will go next...

They both have what you need, the 8053 will not play mp3's if you have that desire though. The 8053 is rumored to have a slightly better sound as well, but that is subjective. Pretty similar units otherwise, I wouldn't hesitate to buy either. Especially right now if someone offered me one for sale as I am looking to.

IMO you always want the lightest, stiffest cone you can use for an application. Of course, this means that it has to be strong enough to take the abuse the motor can put out on it and also not have any breakups than completely ruin the response in the frequency range you want to use them.

Holy frustrating.

Move. Then home speakers, then 3 way.

because I don't have time to go 3 way yet anyway.

why?

*held out for an 860

Almost bought a A/D/S 840.

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Its in a pucking box and has been to.

/\ adds that I have never owned either, but have read lots. I have been trying to buy my buddies 9813 since I joined this site.

Adrian, $300 sounds high to me on both of those. The 9813 will allow you to run active, but really should sell for under $200 (here anyway). The 57 is newer but that isn't better in this case.

It is in the dictionary.

LOL!

They had a pair sitting there when I was there less than a month ago.

Happy, happy Joy, joy *said in my best Stimpy voice

I guess I'm just comming at this from a different viewpoint than you... I'm more of a home audio guy, so a larger enclosure that I could flatten out behind a couch or beneath a bed would allow me to build a ported enclosure with a still reasonable port size to box ratio. However since most people here are looking at car use, I'd say a slim mount driver that could be built into decent 3 way setup would be very enticing. It just depends on which application you're looking at. For me in that case, I'd use a larger driver then. Do the math and try to tune a .5cuft enclosure to 20hz with enough port area. Your box is all port. Considering that this is the case, I'd expect that as an alternative stepping up to a driver that was optimized for a larger enclosure could actually end up smaller since the port length would be shorter. Of course, I am the kind of guy that wants to move into a house that I can run 4 MJ18's mounted IB for home audio so the 8 for home audio eludes me. edit: by no means am I trying to be antagonistic DIYiT

With a pair you can definitely get some bass, even a single is really respectable. I enjoy mine.

If you are single, I might look for a dog that women find cuter than either of those...

1) Under 4" 2) I don't think shooting for a 2 way setup will be cost effective. Even 600-800hz would be great for a 3 way though as you wouldn't be limited at all by your midrange in LFE then. 3) I apologize for bringing up expensive comparisons, but in my mind going 3 way it is sort of the competition. Obviously the Aura is too expensive and large and the XLS is discontinued so I just see a market hole there. I would argue with the ported requirement as my problem with ported 8's is that the enclosure is smaller than the port. Optimal for in door use or a small sealed box for sub duties.