///M5

Sleep was more important today

Not trying to be mean but realistic before you invest a lot of money into something that doesn't work. The last thing we want is for you to not be happy, but you are going down a futile road and need to change your path. There is a ton of knowledge here, but you are doing your best to bypass it and aren't going to be satisfied which is what we are trying to prevent. It would really be prudent to take a step back and perhaps share your goals so that we can better discuss what you should be using instead of trying to make something that doesn't do what you want try.

Considering your 8 & 10" comment and the preface of the whole thread, we don't think you do know what the sub is for.

They sound that good, eh?

June could work, especially planned this far ahead.

Been super slow here for about a week. 20 seconds or more a click. No TF

I will someday, but now my work focus will be West which won't help.

I am down. Depending on when I would even host.

You really do not want to mix sub sizes--SUPER BAD IDEA. edit: I merged the topics so there is only one, please don't add another: confusing enough to read now that there are two separate conversations but all the info will now be in one place

You are really, really lost.

Nothing to do with speed at all, but you are missing the point of the driver completely. It is made for SPL. Fast rock bass has nothing to do with SPL at all. Sort of like asking how well a pro-street dragster will drive down the street.

ttt had to keep the hop on page 1 for god's sake

Perhaps then asking a question would have yielded you an answer. Ellipses do not lead to questions. Mike's recommendations are pretty spot on. For 4 of them, shoot for 12-14cuft with 100-120sqin of port. Personally I'd tune lower than you are going to as well, 28hz would be nice but you will have more output tuned higher.

Then use a smaller wire that is actually appropriate for the application. 8 ga for that is a complete waste. Since it sounds like you already have it, I suggest spinning a cigar trimmer around it with nearly no pressure to reduce the size of the wire you currently have. Actually hell, I take that back just run 12ga it will make more sense across the board.

alone in hurr

I personally prefer the midrange of your Aura's to them significantly, but I did listen to them side by side with no tweeter support as well.

I'd try and collect shipping insurance from MA and just take the money and buy the Sundowns, not worth even sending it back in. Especially since the peckers told you to connect a damaged beast anyways.

Gonna need to go bigger to hit your target. 28Hz and a 3x16" vent is going to be near 38" long which is more than a cubic foot alone. Once you add bracing and the drivers I think your initial target has to be more like 5.5cuft, but really you need to account for it all in the planning and be exact.

You drive really fast. really

Go for it./

Nice work, if you were me I would have beefed it up with another layer in the baffle and added some more bracing as well.

/\ what I meant. I love the idea of the 8, but mixing it with a 5.25 is the dumb part. A real dedicated midrange driver would be much better. Personally I prefer 3" drivers to the 4's even, but part of that is I have heard a couple 4's that didn't do what I would want while most of the 3's have come much closer.

First things first, how much space are you really willing to give up.

Thanks for the pics of those Zap's Ramos. Big for little puckers, remind me of my old Fosgate 5.25 mids.

I hate that. really just wanted to see if the "editing" would go away again when I quoted it. it didn't