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To not localize a sub you need a real enclosure and a driver that can do something.

The problem with ALL the soundbars is they are small.

If you can run a receiver still it is much easier. That defeated the purpose for me though. I need something for now that can be bedroom later in life. Going to remodel the living space and when I do the stereo will be built in. Wanted a reasonable replacement. $1500 ML is on sale for $699 at Best Buy right now. Needs a sub, but that isn't hard.

If you can run a receiver still it is much easier. That defeated the purpose for me though. I need something for now that can be bedroom later in life. Going to remodel the living space and when I do the stereo will be built in. Wanted a reasonable replacement. $1500 ML is on sale for $699 at Best Buy right now. Needs a sub, but that isn't hard.

How big are they/

I will probably own one of those soon. Realized I'm my soundbar purchase return what I have always known. A 2 way without a real mid sucks

I returned it.

Curious what you do. My beach cruisin' trailer needs a stereo. I currently use a bluetooth speaker and my phone, but just my phone, some drivers, and an amp will be what is next. I am okay with 110v, but a small battery backup would be even better.

Have a box full of drivers to send to Jared to play with. Been in my car since before Christmas. My lazy ass didn't want to wait in line pre-Christmas for the shipping nonsense and has forgotten since. A few of them will be in said walls when the remodel is done. Going to need a shitload of channels though as the whole house will be active.

When I remodel I will have 2 dedicated spaces. Then all in walls happen. Problem is I need more than a 2x4 wall for some volume, lol. Until then this is what I will have. At that point this is bedroom material

I am not replacing anything Golden. Trio of Def Tech BP2000 with no rears on an Onkyo 876. I normally sit horribly off axis and am hoping to resolve that issue. TV goes on an articulating mount and the bar beneath it so when you sit where you logically position said tv all will be good.

I think there are 2 price points for sound bars. <$200 and > $1500 anything in between is STUPID.

It sounded SO MUCH better than anything else they had at the store....and so much like shit at home.

Think there are only 2 on the market worth listening to. Martin Logan and B&W. B&W here on clearance, but I don't want a showroom used one. Figure it is from batch 1 otherwise I'd be fine with it.

Got rid of that ridiculous soundbar thingee.

If you want to waste money continue down that path. Even with the rear hatch open the fronts will do more with the same budget than anything you put in the back. In particular the rear pillar speakers were always pointless. Just GM using the "better sound through marketing" nonsense that so many snake oil sales people have used over history.

My Escalade has only fronts. The rest are all GONE ...and it sounds GREAT in every seat.

I love me some Zapco & SSA.

Much better path. As usual J is a bit more clear on stating what I imply.

I ONLY care about musical reproduction. The lowest note on an upright bass is 41Hz and while yes a piano can play 27.5Hz it is really rare and not that important to me. I would then setup my system to be able to deal with that.

I was saying your goal doesn't resonate with me. And as for how your car will respond, that no one can predict.

What you want and what makes sense aren't two things I put together...but I have zero music that has lfe like you are desiring.

You have the ML? I am contemplating buying it and trying it out...in comparison.

Adorable. Hope it all goes PERFECT!

I am naturally somewhat opposed to electronic companies making speakers too.