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yea it was still working just fine.. but do the coils smell that bad when they just get hot? or only when they start to burn? is there anyway of telling how bad the coil is? from how you describe it just hot is unlikely usually the smell of hot vc's is MUCH more sublte and dissapates fatser then your describing, if the smells as bad as you describe then i'm suprised you didnt see smoke. rem those jl's that blew at end of comp? they "played" sort of and were def. blown, his was a very bad blow but he didn't fuse any thing so it did'nt stop moving, however if you still heard notes from your sub you may be able to get a little use out of it... maybe, just pray to the bass gods! also be very happy you never wired down to 1 ohm with that monster of an amp you have, you'd probly would have seen flames from the sound of things. i think my mind is whats making the msell worse than it is. plus there's no window open in my house.. but still.. in the car it was intense.. but i wish it was wired to 1ohm lol.. then i wouldnt be using stupid loud features because it would already be louder! but i was playing it at full blast until i got home and then i decided to fix my trunk. then i put my nose in the port.. so it was still working fine.. but i did hear a funny sound but i beleive it was my deck plate rattling or something but who knows now

lmao made my night moderator please?

yea it was still working just fine.. but do the coils smell that bad when they just get hot? or only when they start to burn? is there anyway of telling how bad the coil is?

the shorter life expentancy is killing me.. if it works i could maybe run it.. but for how long.. i dont know if i just want to send it in now and get it over with.. meanwhile i build up my electrical.. just getting a battery or whatever.. then by the time i get it back it'll be ready to be ran at 1ohm. but it all depends on how bad it is.. which i still don't know :/ but yea definately not.. now my car reeks haha and so does my room a little. but that smells really burns ya throat

Yes. It will probably have a more limited life due to the damage already inflicted on the poor thing but if it still works............. Dude did I read earlier you set your gains at volume 20/36 then play the system daily at volume 22/36?? Why did you set them at 20? You were probably clipping the amp before it even got the shitty "loud" signal for 2hours or however long it was. Jono yea i should just orbably get it fixed. i set the gains at 20 and play it 22 only because it was louder and i've always done it like that.. but it could;ve been affecting it this whole time.. who knows.. i suck

he's got a good point, play it and pay close attention to how it performs, if it is blown just unhook it quickly so you don't faq up your amp. should i test it out in free air? i would'nt suggest that, free air subs, or infinite baffle subs, are designed specifically for that and if memory serves me correct you run the risk of causing damage to your sub if it wasn't designed for that, i'd put it back in the enclosure and play it at low volume while listening for bad sounds like distorion, scratching or poor response, things like that, also look for smoke and flames! i'm not joking either, i've seen it! alright i've heard that also. i'll put it back in tomorrow and test it out but haha i've had smoke come out of my ports before.. i fried a kicker a while back....... guess how.. adding bass boost. didn't know that it was similar to loud features. but i should have known better

he's got a good point, play it and pay close attention to how it performs, if it is blown just unhook it quickly so you don't faq up your amp. should i test it out in free air?

you act like i meant to abuse it. that's the last thing i'd do. i'm 17 and this is my first real setup. i put the loud feature on not knowing. now i'll never use it again. sry for coming off like a little cry baby but its frustrating. so you're saying if i hook it back up and it works fine. then everything is good? and what happened today and yesterday was me almost breaking it?

or better yet lets hope you just blew the VC's on your components, how do they sound now? it's definately the sub.. the sub is sitting on my bedroom floor next to me and that's what smells. i thought these btl's were troopers.. i didn't think 2 hours (if that) of a clipped signal would destroy the coil. what makes me pissed is why were my terminals already coated in burn residue when i unboxed it there is NO scratching sound when i push on the cone.. i think the VC's were just cooking.. but is they far too gone i just want to put it back in and fix my settings.. but do i need to a recone ya sorry bout the dumb ? you already answered in 1st post i read 1st half of it and got freaked out for ya bro, plus i had 2 beers and I am light weight these days sooo my bad i should read everything before i rush to post. The Fi's are trooper BUT, there is a big difference between giving it a clipped amp signal with no distortion from HU and using the loud button or alike, when you give it a distorted signal before the amp you are then amplifying distortion making much much worse then sending a clean signal in and clipping your amp, yes clipping your amp is usually where you start to create distortion esp as you turn it up more but ya the loud button is the devil. Ya you prob need a recone but what you really need to do is get ahold of Fi, I have'nt delt with them but have heard great things about their customer service. They will tell you exactly what you need you prob need 2 new vc's and maybe a full on rebuild depending on what you damaged of course. How long did you jam on it with the satan button i mean loud button on? that may make a difference, of course even a few seconds of it can cause catastrofic failures under the wrong circumstances. I know your patient but Imight be able to help you out if will have a hard time dealing without a sub while it gets fixed, I got an extra 15 kicking around, give me a call if its going to be gone longer then you can handle if you want I'll pm you my digits. feel free to call any time you have a ? you need a quick answer to or if ya want to shoot the chit or "vent" about your woes, sometimes that helps. i used the loud feature half way to the show yesterday. during the whole show. the whole way back. on my way to work today. and on my way back from work today. so i fucked it up. i fuckin seriosuly just want to quit. i've maxxed out my spending for all of this stuff. and what happens.. i fry my coil after only using the damn thing for two weeks. go fuckin figure. it's not worth working 40+ and having ) spending dollars. then having to play football and go to highschool. so Fi has pretty good customer service but they never pick up the phone. they call u back. and i work so they'll probably end up calling whil ei;m there.. go figure.. and emailing sucks. but i'm going to do both. this is great. now i have to send my sub across america and pay probably over $200 doing it. fuck me right. but i might definately hit u up for that 15 haha. but. damn. why does this shit hate me? Thanks Bill! before i totally go ape shit can anyone else let me know if my sub will be ok? or is a recone my only option?

or better yet lets hope you just blew the VC's on your components, how do they sound now? it's definately the sub.. the sub is sitting on my bedroom floor next to me and that's what smells. i thought these btl's were troopers.. i didn't think 2 hours (if that) of a clipped signal would destroy the coil. what makes me pissed is why were my terminals already coated in burn residue when i unboxed it there is NO scratching sound when i push on the cone.. i think the VC's were just cooking.. but is they far too gone i just want to put it back in and fix my settings.. but do i need to a recone

voicecoil burning is what i was dreading to hear. but i knew deep down that's what it was but my next question to everyone is..... is it already time for a recone? or can i hook it back up and fix my settings?

the max volume of my headunit is 36 and i set the gain with it at 20.. but i usually play it at 22 which was what it was at. i hope i didn;t damage it in any way. hopefully shizzon or someone chimes in but i think i'll reset the gain with th eloudness option on.. then i should be straight right? thanks! the sub still effin smells and now that's all i can smell in my room.. my mom even noticed the weird smell.. but why the hell would my magnet and basket be warm... along with the dustcap...?

do u think i fucked something up though? or did i not mess it up that bad? i meant to reset the gain once i turned it on but i kinda forgot :/ that's what i think it was doing... made the amp start clipping perhaps...?

lastest discussions.. i need to know :/

i was going to order a 9a31 from remybattery.com but they're out of stock and they never emailed me back when i asked them when they'll have more any other places i could find them for under $200 shipped?

It was a pleasure meeting you today Marcus, do'nt let it get you down that you got 3rd out 3, you did well after your tweeks, plus if you look at past comp results you would have done about equally well in larger fields from the past (IN A TRUNK most of the others had hatchbacks or suv's in those). When your wired down to an ohm you'll def be in the 40's. Today was a testing day for you and as you said you learned alot, and thats what it was all about. I hope to see you at another NESPL event tearning it up in my class when your wired right. Rem., the guy that took your class today would have to change a ton of his equipment to even lick your boots after you only add a battery, plus your sub is no where even close to broken in... you will hear a big dif. in loudness after your break-in, I know I did as has basically every1 I know... i bet you dream of batteries and 1 ohm tonight! You possess a very important skill, one that is rare: patience and I respect that, so IMO use that patience after you wire it down to an ohm and wait till that sub broken in before you go full tilt, you won't regret it. Your sub will last alot longer and be louder in the long run. You have good taste in equipment and patience so I know your gonna be one loud mofo in the NESPL if you do decide to compete, if not then in your general area for sure. I look forward to seeing you in the SPL lanes again in the near future. I know you said you didn't want to travel too far for some of the events but maybe after you get your battery you may change your mind ;-) even if not he is having another comp in MA sept. 27th, its not on his schedule yet (will be soon) but I heard it is confirmed, so maybe I'll @ least see you there. dont mean to get off topic but... btw he was being very nice about the car show part! it was a joke! The organizers advertised as much as me and way less then SPLblazer, which is sad cuz they posted on a site that "this show is their life". They were very unorganized, VERY, they showed up late and had nothing set up! it was a cluster f***, they made us move twice the last time after the meter was practically set up.NESPL on the other hand ran a tip top comp as usual. Being a saturday it was small as he predicted but we had almost as many spl cars as they had show cars lmfao. The show guys didn't have the dunk tank as they advertised or a few other things and at the last min. tried to put SPLblazer on the spot to kick in $. He didn't say anything about it to us or complain I just overheard it, honestly it pissed me off. But as usual he stuck up for his competetors and we didn't have to pay extra cash (a few did not knowing but the rest of us didn't) It was days like today that I was glad the SPL comp and car show were/are seperate entities. I obv can not and will not speak for NESPL but i would be VERY suprised if the nespl returns to that show! all that said I had a blast today, met some very cool people, saw lots of cool people that I already knew from the league and am as addicted as ever to this league! congrats again on the trophy Marcus, see you soon. btw you did a good job on your install, very clean. -Bill thanks man! means a lot. it was good meeting you also. congrats on another first but all i wanted to do when i got home was work on my car but it was basically dark lol. i just want to make it better! but anyways i think i'm going to drive up to tewksbury in septemeber.. i know i'll be all setup by then.. and i will go to the other one you were talking about also.. i said i don't want to become a competitor but i actually really want to.. i'll just compete with a daily setup.. or get a box that's in the middle! but i'll definately see you

welcome and your boy with the sentra knows how to choose a nice setup

so i went to a New England SPL event today and i have to say it was a good time.. the car show part was iffy but the SPL part was excellent.. i'm not really looking at being a competitor so i only went to get my car metered and to have a good time i ended up placing third in the A1 category.. on my first run i got a 133.? and on the second, after playing with a couple things, a 136.? lmao.. there were only three people in my class also haha i suck... but remember: i have a trunk and am only running my amp at 4ohms which equals like 500 watts the kid who got first had a hatchback with one 13.5 W7 with a 1000/1 amp and the guy who got second had two W6's but idk what he had for an amp.. they thought their JL stuff was the shit but they have nooooooo clue what my setup should be like so no i'm really desperate to get a second battery so i can wire my sub to 1ohm.. then i hope to be in the 40's i just didn't like losing to people with mainstream JL and basic setups :/ but it was my first time and a goood learning expirence

i have a BTL and it has excellent sound quality IMO i've never owned a BL but i'm sure it's sound quality is right on point i'd go with the BL's but if you want to save some money then go with the Q's.. they'll both be able to handle and extra 400 watts each easily

Ok well here's the scenario: I am running a 15" BTL off of a JL Audio 250/1 (not the v2 one). On the amp along with the power light and protection mode light it has a light that is labeled "low Ohm" with the little ohm symbol. This amp's lowest rating is 1.5 ohm. My woofer is wired down to 1 ohm. But i figured it wasn't a big problem. OK so here's the problem - just now I noticed that on a certain note of a song (Lil Jon-Throw It Up) the light labeled low ohm blinks. Then i noticed sort of a popping sound coming from the box. So i went around to the back and popped the trunk. Then i could really hear the popping sound. I believe the sound it coming from the sub itself and not the port. But i could be wrong. I could never hear the sound before in the driver's seat so i don't know how long it's been there. I have no idea why or what's causing this. Can any one explain to me what's the problem? Am i harming my woofer? Any trouble shooting? Thanks guys. If any more info is needed please let me know. I'm trying to figure this out before the morning when i go to work so please help me out.

it's alright i suppose.. its only at 4ohms so it's not near its potential.. but i moved my box back about a foot when i put it in and i think that caused a change is spl in my car so tomorrow i'm going to put it back to where it was before.. then i'll maybe be able to see a difference... but as of now --- the 250/1 at 1ohm was louder :/

haha i see.. just use a dmm real quick and see what the voltage is at the amp at full tilt the voltage at my amp drops into the high 11's for a split second at the end of a big note.. this is probably the most abusive song i have but this is at idle (and my car was idling for a good 15 minutes) when driving around my voltage drops to around 12.5 like you.. (not sure how many rpm but i was cruising at like 10-15) the only electrical upgrade i have right now is big is 1/0.. but i'm going to pick up a deep cycle/starting battery tomorrow (yellowtop) since jacob is in here.. will i damage my amp is it drops below 12 for a quick second? or should i take it easy on the volume knob until i get that battery tomorrow? (we have a similar problem so i figured i'd ask.. just let me know if i'm jacking.. sry!)

i put mine in yesterday also. but mine is wired to 4ohms.. so i'm only seeing around 500 from it.. 15 minutes ago i set the gain using a 50hz tone and dmm etc etc.. since last night i did it a different way but is your voltmeter wired to the terminal at the amp or the terminal on the battery under the hood? your voltage might be lower than what you really see because the voltage at the amp isn't as mush as the battery under the hood..

ok i think i have the subsonic set about right i think.. it's a pain in the ass.. you have to guess kinda where the right setting is.. it's only number at each end. as for the lowpass.. same situation. but it's not hitting a certain highnote.. any idea of what could fix that? as for the gain.. i did it by watching the voltage drop directy at the amp terminals on certain songs... the voltage stays very stong but i basically have to be driving.. any tips or tricks?.. i want to get this set right since it'll probably be at 4ohms for a little bit of time :/

ok yea haha just hooked it up and finished at 10 lol but now to really play with the settings.. so I have some quetions.. where should I put the subsonic? ideal spot? (34hz box) lpf? it's all the way at 300hz right now. better spot? and can I crank the gain up until I see a major voltage drop? it's half way right now and my voltage is staying really high? where should it go?