Notorious97200

Wow ! Nice, very nice ! But you think that is not crazy enough ?! you want more ? If you double the subs and amps, you car will hate you even more ! Waiting for the build log.

There are free designs on the Fi section. They should please you.

Ask Ryan at RAM Design. Or DC something They are both members here.

Looks like a good choice ! I listened to a system with 2 Fi bl 12" recently, and all I can say is...wow ! Loud, very loud, and so clean ! On a 3000 w rms amp. the box is like a 15" sub box : 2ft" per sub. I'll post some pics later. the box is beautiful. Thanks again Shawn !!! The buyer is sooo happy : tonight is demoing time on the stadium parking !!!!!!!

JBLCamry : you're the BOSS !!!

Can you show us the car ? Is it really a BMW ? Nice work, nice equipment, but what about the highs & mids ? thanks for sharing !

I have a Fi btl N2 (DVC2) on a 1500 w Sundown amplifier and I love it ! I tried a 3000 w amp (same brand) and I did not notice any real difference. Maybe what I thought I've heared is only due to psycho acoustic !!! Use your current amp, save some money and get a reputable 3000-3500 w amp, later. Be sure to buy a good one, not some crappy amp with xxxxx w ratings with a 100 amp fuse ! Take your time, but don't expect too much when you change the amp. It may not be much much louder on your ears. On the TL it can be another game. When the moderators give you an advice, here, you can fully trust them. They know their business !

Maybe I understood it wrong, but Quentin said bandpass boxes can be smaller than normal ported boxes, and Swift said the opposite. I've always thought bandpass boxes were huge, with 2 chambers. I hear a lot of people talking about bandpass boxes, saying they are better, sound better, are louder,...etc I'm lost. Sorry for the threadjack, OP.

If you have the budget , go for the Zcons. But the Mayhems are very good subs too. Tough decision ! Based on budget : just get some recones and baskets ! If you can do the work. Or sell your subs and...ZCONS !

What car do you have ? A sedan ? If the box is in the trunk facing forward, they won't see it. So, you don't need too make the box unique, just hide it with some black carpet !!! Paint will require more work : sanding, mastic (don't know the english word, maybe bondo ?), and more sanding,... Do it simple and efficient. Good luck and show us some pics when it's done. Those subs are wonderful ! You'll love them.

Nice equipment, bro ! Got some more work to do !

Ooh yes : L7 like big boxes ! In France they put them in huuuuge boxes, on 2000-2500 w rms!!! They have great spl scores, but the subs stink fast : all the competitors say that it's normal because all Kicker subs stink !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are mad !!!! I had one L7 recently, and I put it in a 3.1ft3 box (@ 33Hz) : was not bad, but way too small. I loved the L7 when a friend had one in a 5 ft3 sealed box IIRC. Talk to your customer : maybe he can accept to use a sealed box for both subs. Or a big ported box for only one. Good luck, and tell us what he choose.

Pics didn't come up on my cell No pics on my pc

You're going big with that system ! Too big for sure ! You can sell everything except the alt and start again. 1) 1 or 2 sets of mids in the front door and just one pair of tweeters. You will need a 4 channels amp, and a small 2 channels for the tweeters. 2) You want to go cheap on the amp ? Go with a Crescendo 3500 for example, or even a 2000. 3) On a single SSA Zcon 15" or on 2 SSA Xcon 12". Can you fire them forward, sealed from the trunk ? That would be nice : no rattles in the trunk at all, it gives you room for amps and batteries in the back. You need to read a lot more on this forum. Don't listen to ignorants !!! You are already in good hands here !!!

Lot of sets in the market ! If you can't listen to any, trust the good old brands like Alpine(r or x) or JBL. Can't really go wrong with them. I would personally do a ported box for the small sub, to get the most out if it. I don't know this sub though, I may be wrong !

How many mids & highs do you plan to use ? You want to change brand ? Why ? Use what you already have, or get better speakers !!! :-) I vote for 2 12s Xcon ! Honestly, I must admit the Icons are great subs. I had one 15" icon ported and I loved it. 2 of them should be enough, or even too much for your ears and for your car !!!!!!! Good luck OP.

nice, thanks and welcome to SSA !

If you already have a Sundown , get a second one for the look, at least !!! And don't forget D class amps are less hard on the electrical. But I know SPL D is big in Europe, and easily available .

I bought an amp like this JBL a few years ago for $300 (+ shipping IIRC). It was for a friend who could not find a second JBL bpx 300.4. He still uses those amps and loves them. But he had always loved JBL product (in pro audio AND in car audio). I'm happy to see we are not the only one to like this brand !!! All those mods wanting at least one...!

I thought they were talking about a Jr model, with less power handling. More suited for the average car audio enthousiasts ! It would have been a great move: bigger market than the 5000-7500 w subs would get.

OP, you're in good hands. Just do everything Impious tells you. He knows his business ! Even if you don't like what he says, it's the truth !!!

Maybe the gain is set too high. If you're on a small budget, you can try to find a cheaper AGM battery : you have a lot of choice in the USA. But the XS batteries are very good. A friend of mine run 2 in his car, after running some Optima, or Vmax batts. He loves the XS, and doesn't want any other brand of batts ! Good luck !

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