Then what in the F is the sensitivity rating for? In that case you can ignore all the specs and just guess lol Instead of running two woofers that would take the power fine and probably make him happy (depending on what he wants) you recommend that he run two woofers at the very tippy tip top of their power handling? The first thing you said was that there was misinformation in the thread...but then you go and post some more. EDIT: And how did you run two 3k's and then one 3k? Impedance doesn't work like that.... that's hardly the tippy top of their power handling lol. There's far more people putting this kind of power to SA's then just me. There's a few guys running 4-5 to a pair. I'm not saying to do that. But you can safely put a 3k on two SA12s. I'm not saying the zcon is a bad sub. But if the OP wants to spend a grand or more and wait a month for subs, go for it. On top of that, not utilize the full potential of his drivers...... Or he can spend 400 and get them in a couple days. I highly doubt a zcon will be as musical as a SA. If he really wants to get his spl on, then order them with SPL coils... what don't you understand about the amps? run one at 1ohm, run two @ 1ohm? you cant be serious Serious about what? Everything? Yes? I can't help it if you're inept to understand what I'm trying to convey.... Maybe you misunderstood that I said "just because" this is different than saying it won't be louder which I did not say..... ok my bad. SAs are shit subs and won't take 3k to a pair...... I guess my opinion matters not.... even though I was planning on running zcons for scrappin. Maybe I should follow suite with all you other amazing SQ guys running super tweets and PA mids lol. The last sentence made no sense i could care less about SQ so stop responding with emotion like a female and get the sand out your vagina. Your information is hilarious at best, good try. You dont know how many watts your subs are seeing just because there on a 3k amp doesnt mean they will receive 3000 watts . Considering his box size throwing 2-12" SA subs would be stupid and overkill with goobs of power considering his box is hella of efficient. Subwoofers dont need double rated there power to get loud or be used in daily setup, everybody is not chasing numbers and wants to buy recones. So before you post useless information try to find out the OP goals and read the information provided so you can help out a little better. Throwing 3k at SA's may take it thermally but not mechanically and vice versa. If he were to put that on those subs and blow them would you pay for his recones? By your logic he should only get Zcons if he has 15k to 20k, right? I guess you dont see the people with 3k or 5k on a pair or even 1200 on a pair with great numbers? I cant help it your inept to give good advice, but try again budddy.