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I've posted some more videos on Youtube. If you want to see them, look at my profile ( airsoftsniperm4 ). I would post them here, but don't want to take up too much forum space

I am looking to get a better subwoofer for my room. I have a Insignia 600 watt Receiver, and front and surround speakers. The fronts and others are pretty cheap, but they are actually really clear and have taken quite the abuse. I also have a Yamaha 10" YST-SW216 100 watt sub and I'm not pleased with the performance of it. It is alright, but tends to bottom-out quite a bit when listening to demanding songs. My room is 13x13. What I am looking to do is: get a amplifier like this Pyle one for the Sub or Subs ONLY by using the RCA outputs on the back of it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=270329650426 I was also thinking about 2 Kicker COMP C10's, or one Diaond Audio D3 10". But then I ran across a RE Audio SE 10" sub also. Which of these subs would provide the best SQ and SPL at the same time? I want the sub to be able to handle the lows in songs, like Down 4 THE Krown by Kottonmouth Kings. I would also prefer SQ over SPL, but would like to be able to have alot of SPL if needed. Any help on deciding on what subs to get? Thanks in advance. I don't know if the poll will work or not; it's the first time I have tried it. Thanks again

Would you be using this for movies, or music primarily?

Thanks. I'm going to paint it ths week. My uncle had an idea of putting diamond plate powdered coated black on the front of the box. We'll see how it turns out...

Got my EP2500 from Kevin Haskins of DIY Cable as an open box product so I decided to get it now. Went with the MIC220 also. I absolutely love the sound of the sub now. It's a crazy difference from going fro 150w to 2000w. Bass I Love You sounds awesome. It shakes the walls like crazy, and the 11hz tone has set off my houses' alarm once so far Luckily, my mom didn't get to mad when that happened haha. While playing Opus Dei off of YouTube, I have to take pictures off of any surrounding walls. I can feel the low bass around 15hz in the living room over 30 feet away, and it is blocked from my room by two other rooms. Here is a little video I made of it playing The Bass Will Destroy You by BassoTronics. It's around 1/4 power: Here's another vid of Opus Dei at about 1/2 power: I love watching movies in my room now. It has much lower and louder bass (if needed) than any movie theater I've been at. I also noticed that if my door is touching the door jam, that the sub will push the door in and out on the 6hz and 11hz tone on Bass I Love You. It really suprised me at first. Thanks to everyone for the help

I was thinking about getting the B-1 also, but thought for a little extra money, I would go for the extra Xmax from going from a 15hz HPF on the B-1 to going to a 13.50hz HPF on the Ultragain MIC2200.

I saw that thread ove on HTS. 20 grand on just a sub project is insane. He must be for subs lol. I haven' been over at AVS in a while. I will check over there again. Just another quick question. Could I use this as a HPF filter for my sub only set at 14.50hz very accurately?? I found someone selling one for around the same price as a Reckhorn B-1, so I wanted to see your guy's opinion on it. Also, does it have a input voltage boost on it? My current receiver's Pre-Out signal isn't strong enough to run the EP2500... Here it is: http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/MIC2200.aspx Thanks for all of the help guys.

What newsletter? My thread? Is that what it's called now???? lol jk

That's got to be annoying. Is there any other kind of Rack amp that you would recommend in the same price range as the EP2500?

Yep, I'm going with the Reckhorn B-1. How loud are the fans on the EP2500 stock? Thanks for the help Robert

Yes, sadly there are problems. I will do the fan mod, if needed, but will probably do it anyways. I will be using the Reckhorn B-1 to boost my Pre-Out voltage as it is only 1v at 1k (ohm sign). What other kind would you recommend, while keeping it in the $300-$400 range? Thanks

Thanks for the concern and the help. The screws were only there for the way home, about 5 minutes. I was thinking the same thing about it damaging the surround. I put shorter screws under the gasket once I changed them. The box is tuned to around 14.65hz. I love the sound of it, and it will be around 25-30db's better once I get the EP2500. It will shake the walls like crazy then. Thanks again for all of the help

Got the foam installed. Might cut some down and put it all around the braces.

We put a piece of 1 inch thick Birch on both sides of where the driver sits to keep the front panel braces against the 50 pounds. Some more pictures. I have a feeling I am going to love how it will sound. That's my KLH 10" driver next to the Mal-X. Pretty big comparison lol Some more pictures: I found out that pictures do this driver no justice at all... Cutting the holes for the braces: Me cutting those holes: The finished brace. We rounded over all edges of the wood and used sand pape to make it smooth to keep airflow going: We put a little crossbrace to help keep the two braces from vibrating too much: Siliconing around the port and in the inside back of the box: The braces installed. We rounded over all edges of the wood and used sand pape to make it more smooth to keep airflow good: The top braces is about half an inch away from the top of the port, to keep the airflow smooth: Test fitting the driver: Temporary bolts until it gets painted. We used T-nuts to keep it secured: The box in my room: I wish that there would be a way that I could make the box around 13 cu.ft and keeping the same dimmensions. But, that's the way it goes. Hopefully it will REALLY shake the walls when I get a new amp? lol. It's already impressive with the current amp, but I can't imagine what it will be like with the EP2500 and the Reckhorn B-1. Hopefully this is a good build thread :T haha. I will post pictures of the foam when I get it in the box. Thanks again to everyone for the help.

Ok, a few change in plans. I decided to get the Mal-X becuase it would be almost as good as two IXL 18.2.2's, and it would be around $100 cheaper. Also, there won't be any way that I could harm the Mal-X with my 150w amp just in case it has no HPF on it. A few build pictures: My Uncle and I have started working on my box. It will be around 7.6-7.8 cu.ft after bracing and everything is accounted for. There aren't many pictures becuase it is only about half way done. I will hopefully be getting more before it is done, and with the driver installed and in my room. The box dimmensions are 48" tall and 20" deep and wide. We will have two window pane style braces. One near the top of the port about 2 inches away, and one about 5 inches above the driver. We will be runing a strip of thin wood between these two braces to help keep those braces "braced." lol. The port is 18.50 inches wide, 2 inches tall, and 55 inches long. The length is divded into two parts, one 34 inches long, and another is 17 inches. There is a 45 degee piece of MDF that will go between these two pieces of wood which will keep the port at two inches from the back wall; I don't remember how long that one was though. There is also another 45 degree piece of MDF that is on the bottom of the port so that it will have better air flow. That also was cut the right length to keep the two inch spacing correct. Drawing everything out first: The cut outs ready for nailing and gluing: The 45 degree angle for 17 inch part of the port: Don't remember what this one was for, just looks like another cut out picture: Assemblig the slot port: Roundover on the top of the port: Port exit. The lighter piece of wood is for a better screwing place for the front pannel, as it will be just screwed on so it will be easier to maintain if needed. I will make sure that the holes will be pre-drilled so the wood won't split, although I am pretty sure my Uncle already knows this becuase he is a very experienced wood worker. The port exit will have a roundover to help with chuffing and port noise. A quick look at a Ford Ranger Pre-Runner by my house. They have around $150,000 tied up in that easily. Not much progress but some. Hopefully, I will have it finished by this Wednesday ot Thursday. I got my Mal-X yesterday. Can't wait to get back home to it lol :mooooh: There is one neat thing that we will be doing for this box. Since the Mal-X wieghs in around 50 pounds we will be taking 1/2 inch steel and making a mounting ring that will go on the inside of the box, right where the mounting screws will be, so the screws have extra strength to support that weight. Hopefully, we will have it done, but my Uncle is really busy and might not be able to get that finished. We might be spraying on a bed liner to protect the box, but I will have to see how much it is first. Otherwise, I will just go with Flat Black. It will have a small roundover on all outside edges of the box to keep it from splintering if it hits a wall, of something, and it just looks better to boot. Special thanks to everyone that has helped me in my theads. You guys have been a great help. Any questions or comments are welcome. That's about it for now. More to come later. :bigsmile:

OK, but will SSA be carrying it? I will email them unless someone already knows the answer. Thanks Edit: I found it in their store. I was just not looking in the right place. Lol

The box building will be started very soon. My Uncle will be getting the wood for me, and will be building it, so whenever he gets a chance from work, the box will be built. I see that on Mach 5's website that the IXL 18.2.2 isn't there anymore. I also can't find the IXL 18 on SSA's store. Did they stop carrying it, or can I just not find it? When I get the money, I willl start the surrounds and the front projects and building. Thanks for the help everyone.

I can't find the Dayton's that you are using. Can you give links to them? I checked Parts-Express for them, but couldn't find them. I haven't looked for the DHT MTM's yet, but will when I get a chance. Thanks for the help

OK, thanks for the help. I had forgotten about needing to get a new sound card for the mic and other stuff. I know this is off topic, but what speakers would you recommend for the center channel? I would prefer a kit, that way I wouldn't have to worry about getting the needed materials, and putting together a crossover from scratch. Thanks again for the help, Robert.

What kind of test tones did you use? And, I will pick up a mic when I get the sub. Did you just get your from Radioshack or something similar? I was also thinking about getting the Yamaha receiver found here: http://store.audioholics.com/product/2361/...CFRwDagodABpLow That wouldn't be part of the sub budget, obviously. Later on down the road, I am going to get the TriTrix kit on Parts-Express for front duties, and the Vifa 2nd Recession Busters Kit from Madiosound to handle the surround channels, and I am also thinking about getting the Vifa's for a center channel also. But, all this upgrading will be over a time period of somewhere around two and a half, to three years. Thanks for all of the help guys. I would be nowhere if I hadn't came here and asked these questions.

Wow...that is crazy

As one use uses a Behringer EP-2500 and BFD, I have no problems. It does rated power which is 1,200w @ 1khz. At 20hz, it puts out 800w @ 2 ohms. Those numbers are not in the manual and were determined by the guys at AVS. The noise part is the fan. If you have it in your listening room, then a $10 replacement fan and 20 minutes will cure that problem. Some receivers have low voltage out of the LFE jack so a BFD can add a little bit of gain but it is mostly used for its parametric EQ and flattening the sub's in-room response. If you have very low voltage there are a couple of additional pieces of equipment you can add to compensate.To the OP, I see that you mentioned your parents being upset with your current sub. I don't think you know what you are planning with your new sub. I have over 5,000 square feet of concrete as part of my house's foundation and I can make every part of it vibrate with my EP-2500 and a pair of 15" TC-3000's. I've had my wife come into the theater room and I think she was screaming at me to turn it down. At least if I read lips I could understand her. The combination of extremely low bass and moderate SPL in a house is not a good combination if you have expensive or sentimental knick-knacks. Anthing not securely fastened will move. -Robert The fan mod is the only thing that I don't like about the EP2500. Would I need a BFD, or could I just use the EP2500 hooked up to my recever? I have also looked at the Crown XLS 802D found here: http://www.audiolines.com/product.php?productid=17288 I would have to get te "Demo/Open Box" opion, becuase I absolutely can not spend $600 on a amp alone, and if the XLS arrives broken, I will send it in as many times as I have to until I get a new one. For me, doing that is worth the saved money. Would I need anything to boost the "Pre-Out" signal from my receiver for the Crown or EP2500? Thanks for the help everyone. Sorry that this has turned out to be such a long thread, and I am grateful that you guys have not closed it yet...

Yes, I have the box plans drawn out, and will hopefully be getting the MDF by next week to start cutting. But, the IXL 18.2.2 sill isn't back in stock. I have changed my port plans again to save around $65, which is nice for me. The port will be 53 inches long. Here is a sketch of what I have planned. I already have the cutouts planned, so that is nice. Any suggestions are welcome, although nothing too crazy...lol

Actually, I have changed my design on the ports. It will be one six inch port 33.5 inches long with two flared ends. Here's what I am going to get: One http://www.thrilleraudio.com/detail.aspx?ID=536 (2 flares, 2 rings, 1 tube) Two Extra http://www.thrilleraudio.com/detail.aspx?ID=533 Two extra http://www.thrilleraudio.com/detail.aspx?ID=532 Thanks for the help guys. It's greatly appreciated

Ok, will do I'm going out of town today, so I won't be on until Monday. See ya then!!