neal00

That 's a very debatable matter, sounds like the other guy's definition of xmax is , coil length minus gap height divided by two equals xmax. Well that only works for one motor topology, long coil with short gap height. I believe the rl-i10 uses TC Sounds TC2+ motor, which is of the long coil / short gap height design. However TC does not measure xmax by that formula, their definition is 70% of BL (which in my mind is the only reasonable way to measure xmax). It would seem to me that using that method of xmax measurement could require a coil quite a bit longer than 50mm just my $.02

btw...la storm 12 with ferrite magnet and honeycomb cone 44pds. la storm with neo motor and aluminum cone 31pds. Thanks Mrray for weighing them. Hmmm, 13lbs, not bad but I thought it would be more.

007 Neo stills ends up being quite a bit lighter does it not? What is the weight difference on the L.A. Storm subs?

I had a weird situation once also. I made a box for two 12" Audiomobile subs in an Acura TL. The subs faced down and fired into a 3 inch slot that opened to the front of the box and it had a removable plexi rear panel, when I played it without the plexi it actually played a little deeper. Suprised the heck out of me, I thought for sure there would be massive cancellation.

I vote for a neodymium magnet, for us guys that don't like heavy subs