It is a Havoc, I'm sure of it. I have the receipt, I purchased it 2/9/06 before it was released at a promotional price. It does look like the Havoc may have been rehauled/redesigned. I'm wondering what the changes are and how the sound of the speaker has changed as a result? ie better sq, more spl...etc? These are the specs I had written down at the time of purchase. Im not sure if they were the final specs as I bought it before it was released and some of the specs may have changed. Dual 2 ohm Re - 1.73 ohms Qts - .394 Qms - 6.8 Qes - .418 Vas - 106 Liters Fs - 32 Hz Le - 1.1 mH Bl - 20.16 Mms - 244g Xmax ~25mm Rms -1500 Watts Sd 856 - cm^2 Spl - 91.0db More Pics... http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=havoc4fp9.jpg http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=havoc6jd3.jpg http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hvshcpz5.jpg http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hvshc2yb4.jpg Thanks for the responses... BAsK