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makes sense. but only serves to help brandon grow and hopefully, realize his goals and the path to get there. having two opinions of such different ideas, yet both very acceptable (and not the wrong way), should only help him, after confusing him a bit first. long story short brandon, sean has talked to you much more then i, so knows your ultimate goals a bit better. sean is also, as he points out, far more particular then i when it comes to sound and build. he is going to take the high road,leading to a very well, if not overbuilt, product. while i'll take the road that leads to a good quality build, but more then likely, not overbuilt, unless we get to extreme power levels. at which point i'm all for 1" mdf, screws and bracing. i think both of our views can be correct, it just depends upon the path brandon wants to go. not planning on switching things out much? i'd probably build sean's way. not for sure this is going to be a permanant setup? i'd lean my way. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ass beat T.O.P.!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

what? should've beat the maitre de's ass, lol... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

please be a gent and add end and start edits when being a whore. Was going to but I felt ashamed of how short my amount of whoring was any amount of wh0ring is good wh0ring. embrace it, don't be embrassed by it. wow, that was corny, eh? wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

holy shit batman !!! that is crazy! you can defintely tell where it's going to rattle, lol. that peak is the crazy. and you have some serious tools/toys. hanging out here with you guys is really making me feel dumb. times like this, i feel like i belong at the chithole. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

sean knows his shit, lol. i'd also recommend teh soundsplinter rl-p12, the ICON 12 and the SI BM 12. to save a bit of money, you could go mach5 maw12, but you'll have to go less power as well. of those four, i own three and it's only the BM that i'm going by other's peoples thoughts. but leaning on sean (you'd better be about 6'8" to really lean on him, lol. that skrawny honky is 6'6" or so) isn't a bad move. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

teh ICON is a sweet sub. that's what it did, brand new, no break in, in my truck. link to the review i did i think you'll like this sub in that setup, and should be louder, same power, then mine. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

looking at the bottom, from the top, lol drivers side passanger side, and the 4" pvc port (with a semi flare on each end) notice the sub sid is up off the floor while the passanger side goes all the way down. it's a bit tricky of a build, but nothing seriously rough. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

me likes it alot, lol. and it's not even close to the loudest thing i've ever had in there (solo x 18 off an ma audio hk4000d and no back seat) wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Did you use fiberglass at all or did you just make kind of a trapezoid over the hump with MDF? Also, are all these different applications using the same amp? I've always been told to never use anything less than 3/4" MDF but I have no experience with anything else so I'll let Sean argue with that. Using 1/2" would definitely make it easier to reach a desired volume though. Interesting about the two 10's in a ported box. What were those? How much airspace did they end up with? As for the L7's....out of my budget. One of the tough limitations I have with this set up is that I'm pretty strapped. I am trying to sell two brand new Diyma 12's. Basically whatever I get for those is what I'll have to spend on sub/s. I have a blown Viper amp that I'm trying to sell and I'll use that money plus like $100-$150 for an amp, and obviously I plan on building my box. So yea, money and airspace are my limitations but you seem to think airspace won't be a problem. Hopefully you are correct. it's all wood, no glass. and in my truck, i've had as many amps in there as i've had subs, lol. it's my test bed, kinda. as far as 3/4" vs 1/2", i'd use 3/4" all day, every day if one could get the desired volume with it. however, trucks are a different beast, and getting the necessary volume isn't always easy. with a good build and a solid brace (s), 1/2" mdf will work in alot of situations where it's just not plausible to use anything thicker. as far as flexing goes, if all that does is had a bit of peakiness to it, then (as i'm sure sean will agree) if your after output, it's not a bad thing necessarly. if the box is built properly, it'll last. the two 10" box housed memphis hpo and then m3s. ~1cube each tuned about 35-36hz with a 3" port. for a basshead, it sounds great, for a sq guy like sean, it would be peaky and a bit overwhelming compared to the rest of the system. i'll see if i can't find thsoe pics.... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

it's getting a rated 1100wrms from a memphis mc1300, aka memphis belle. output is good, low, mid 130's on a tl legal. and in an xcab fullsize which suck for getting loud. your hombre will do well, s10s (and their clones) are loud. you'll like this sub in that size enclosure in that truck, no doubt! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lol...ain't hatin if we spittin the truth. oval boys just can't admit to it. the only time ford has topped the vette in recent history is the gt40, and you paid more for it. at least ford circled their mistake. hehe wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

it'll fit in 6.5" of depth, and it'll rock in 2@35. that's what mine lives in, and that was the max depth i could have as well. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i might do that nightshade to the silverado. i like what that did. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

you want the polyfill in loosely, not packed. if you pack it in, it becomes more of a "solid" object that will actually take away airspace. you want it to remain fluffy to do what it does. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

2-3 cubes tuned low like sean mentioned. if the split coil design is as strong as the xbl^2 drivers thermally, it'll eat the 2kwrms pretty easily in that sized box. i threw 2.5kwrms at a xbl 12xxx in 2.5 @32hz with 36in^2 of port in car and never hurt the thing. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i'm sorry, but you guys are way overcomplicating this. there is easily 2 cubes under the seat using 1/2" mdf, braces and a pvc port. and that's downfiring a sub, ala SSA ICON. and true, while sean doesn't care for peaky, and might pickup on port noise, i honestly can't hear neither in my truck. which, btw, is an 2004 silverado xcab. i've also done four upfiring tens sealed, two tens w/rear fired 3" ports, downfired subs, four foward firing 8L7s with side fired ports and the current single 12 downfired sub with 4" side fired port. the 4 8s were the loudest setup, but also tuned the highest. the two ported tens were very nice ( i have also done a single down fired 10 with a side fired port) and loud, sean heard the 10s sealed an i love the deepness and responsiveness of the ICON in this current box. and the port doesn't need to turn either. of course, i'm more of a basshead then sean. and with my ears not being as sensitive, i don't here the box flexing any at all. especially in this low power, 1100wrms, situation. i'm sorry, i don't doubt sean and his attention to complete detail. however, coming from someone who did this for a living, 1/2" mdf in this situation is more then adequate. in about 20 overall builds, i have yet to see anyone unhappy about the performance of any of my boxes built in this fashion, for these trucks. btw, if you think you can swing 4 8L7s, i know where there is a box already built. just needs carpet and the ports reattached. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

name a time, so i can get it arranged. might even bring the wifey if she behaves, hehe wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lol, smartass.. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

if the timing is right, i'll volunteer my enclosure. i'd love the road trip anyway. we can keep things fairly constant as we can use one vehicle, sub, power. i'd like to see the results of something like this. if all that is ok with you. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

one one part of this has any truth...and it's the reason amp manufacturers do it. some monoblock amps do indeed have a pair of "outputs". they are only there to make it easier in hooking up multipule subs. it can't be bridged, wired in series or stereo. as stated earlier, they are paralled internally, there is really, truly , only one channel of output in a monoblock amp. remember, mono=one wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

yep... so, what dat mean? udder den da database is da fucked? have no clue why i typed it that way, lol wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

oook. looks like something the mini me can do for school. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lol, don't do that. honestly, i'd wish you'd speak your mind, i can only learn. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

new rule T.O.P. and though it won't let me edit the original post, so it's not there yet. DEEEENNNIIIIMMMMMMM fix that!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee