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josh...exactly what nick and ryan said. this wasn't the optimal box for the dirver, but it works in it. the proto has some internal damage, but it works. all in all, with everything considered, this sub did a wonderful job. it played the notes it was supposed to play and it played them very clearly. no, if anything, my review is more of a statement of what's wrong with my system, what it's lacking, not the sub. i'm currently running my rl-i 8 and i've still got the same problem. lack of mid bass. running these last two subs has made me realize that the s18x is just overpowering the rest of the system whereas these two were trying to do what they were supposed to do...blend in. if u've always wanted a mag or want a really nice sql sub, don't hesitate to buy the MAG. it really is a clean driver that can get really loud. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

good morning ed, everyone! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

alrighty... LAST DAMN DAY FOR GETTING UP THIS FREAKING PHUCKING EARLY!!!! and i'm wore the phuck out! glad to see ya around isaac! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ok, i just finished tom's (TLM) ported enclosure for his future purchase of an rl-i8. in the meantime he said i could plug mine into it for playaround time. box specs are as follows, 1ft^3 tuned to 34hz with one 3" round port. was going to be .75ft^3 with one 4" port, but i couldn't fit the port inside the box..lol....anyway... power is supplied by an orion 2500d. at 8ohms. i have no clue as to the power it's getting, but i'd say at least 500wrms. and wow, can this thing go low for an 8! it gets low enough it knocked the terminal cup out of the back of the box, so i glued it...knocked it out again, made larger hole for more glue..knocked it out again. so i've got to go get a cup that can be screwed in...lol.... anyway, being an 8, i suspected it to handle fast transients well and it does. it isn't quite as punchy as i would have imagined, but that could be the larger box. it runs thru the frequency range nicely, playing every note clearly. it get's loud too, for an 8..lol. it fills the cabin of my truck with really warm bass.i like it, alot. but the one thing that really stands out is how low it goes. playing ludicriss's "red light district" album and track 5, wow o wow...i'm so in love with this sub ported! low and loud it is! this is one amazing lil driver. i can't wait to tryit in a larger sealed box, somewhere between .35ft^3 and .5ft^3. and for those wondering about the port area, it's plenty. i catch just a hint of noise, but only when my ear is right up next to the box. sorry if my thoughts are kinda random in this...long work hours..lol. but overall, for someone without alot of room, but doesn't want to sacrifice sound..this is a great sub to look into... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ok..just a quick post..lol... got behind this morning... GOOD MORNING ED!! <isn't enuff of that available at 1am... tom, brad, nick...don't worry! i still have the delete button...lol!! and i won't be thinking of much more then boobs, beer, beaches and bud!! but thanks for the comments! i'm outy...work is a callin!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

wow, what can i say? it's all been said. mike, thanks for the update and while i know u don't want customers to wait, it's nice to know that business has picked up enough to drain the stock. here's to the magnets getting here and the next ones built! as to the eights...soooooo....do i need to get another one? is the second run going to be that much better? and just put this first one on the shelf? can't wait for the s's!!! and as always..thanks for the awesome job and products! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

finding someone who has experience with the ava and rl-p is going to be hard. both are too new to be experienced by more then a handful, if that. ok, that said, i own/ have owned both the rl-p and the xxx. and i prefer teh rl-p. in a sealed box the rl-p got almost as loud, got a whole bunch lower and IMO sounded better. in a ported box, it was closer as the xxx finally got low, but the rl-p again IMO, sounded better, got just as low and just about as loud. i would guess the ava (the xbl^2 ones) would perform similiar to the xxx. sq bieng subjective, that would be up to u. output wise, i believe the ava would hold the edge, if it performs like the xxx. reaching the lows would depend upon enclosure for the ava and the rl-p would shake ur vehicle to death regardless of box. also, saying the xxx/ava would hold the output edge isn't saying the rl-p isn't loud. it's loud. impressively loud. and amazingly clean doing it. and i won't say for sure the ava and xxx would perform identical, but i'd wager the performance is pretty close. and i'll say this, i still own my rl-p (and a rl-i), but i sold the xxx. to me it was overrated, by the ppl. it just didn't perform the way everybody says it does, IMO. lastly, i believe joehemi is waiting on his ava and he owns an rl-p. so hopefully he'll get here and toss in his $.02. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

we will be holding a memiorial service every night you're away You'd better buy ALOT more wax then.... harhar... but i'll try to think of u guys while of there!! NOT! but seriously, it will suck not being able to log on for a bit...so don't go too crazy in here..i don't wanna read too much..lol and tom, the rl-i8 cutout is 7 5/16" wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

tom, yes i did....adn it rocked! btw..it's now wired for 2 ohms, so a rated 1700wrms is going to it..and let me say this...i have not touched the amp, only the sub control on the h/u..it's at 8 outa 16 ( the gain on the amp is abotu 2/3-3/4, but remember there's usually a s18x in there) and the sub is rocking! i can go a lil more for certain songs, like the DB song tom just mentioned, but that's about it. don't worry mike, i'm being real careful!! again i noticed a bit of a roll off with the upper frequencies. not huge, but there. i'll know more tomorrow as i'm riding around with baby 8 in da back. but i honestly can't get over how low this thing drops...it sounds like a 12 back there in the lowlows. it 's so kewl..definitely beats any other 8 i've heard down low! i've gotta get a digital camera..this thing moves a bunch!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

while i'm not sure how great a snailshell enclosure is, and it would have to be great, one 12 xxx isn't going to beat a pair of 12 rl-ps, sealed or otherwise, unless the snailshell is just that great of a box. i've owned and ran the 12 xxx and the 12 rl-p head to head. adn the rl-p sounds just as good, gets lower on sealed boxes then the xxx and will run with the xxx on the mic. i do think the xxx is the louder of the two (though one pereson listening said they were equal, no mic used ), and will handle more power, but the rl-p is the better all around driver IMO...and i've ran them ported and sealed. that being said.... i think 1.8ft^3 is on the small side, i'd try for at least 2ft^3 w/polyfill. but i'd second denim's option of running a pair of 12's...ported. if ur getting 1.8ft^3 sealed for a pair of 15's, u'll get real close to that for a pair of 12's ported.... and 12" rl-ps love 2ft^3 tuned to 34hz vented boxes... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I cant fit 2 12" vented, being they are 2 cubes each not including port volume and woofer displacement. My box dimensions cannot exceed 4cubes ( 16h/17d/33w ). I can fit a 15" H2 ported as they take a smaller box to match thier motor strength, a couple of 15"sealed, and that xxx snailshell. i also consdered 2 10 ported and that might be another option i need to consider..... i see, ok.... why not apply the H2 idea (one 15 ported) and apply that to the rl-p? or even the xxx? with the situation ur looking at, that would be my recommendation... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

not like any of u will miss me whilest i'm gone anyway... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

does that mean we wont be able to enjoy your lovely commentary on the forum? yep..until the 30th, when i return! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

it does suck to be me right now... but come friday the 24th at 2:30pm EST..lol...it'll rule to be me...cuz i'll be in jamaica!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

and with that... i'm out till sometime after 1am CMT, when i get up to go to work... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

T.O.P. beyotchessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

that's great news scott! sweet! make sure u guys check out my rl-i8 thing in the SS forum.. review.. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

while i'm not sure how great a snailshell enclosure is, and it would have to be great, one 12 xxx isn't going to beat a pair of 12 rl-ps, sealed or otherwise, unless the snailshell is just that great of a box. i've owned and ran the 12 xxx and the 12 rl-p head to head. adn the rl-p sounds just as good, gets lower on sealed boxes then the xxx and will run with the xxx on the mic. i do think the xxx is the louder of the two (though one pereson listening said they were equal, no mic used ), and will handle more power, but the rl-p is the better all around driver IMO...and i've ran them ported and sealed. that being said.... i think 1.8ft^3 is on the small side, i'd try for at least 2ft^3 w/polyfill. but i'd second denim's option of running a pair of 12's...ported. if ur getting 1.8ft^3 sealed for a pair of 15's, u'll get real close to that for a pair of 12's ported.... and 12" rl-ps love 2ft^3 tuned to 34hz vented boxes... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

It takes a real man to admit that they went tanning. You reedemed yourself. Fun, isn't it? thanks jim...and yep! reedemtion was sweet!! elias...u know why.....lol...... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

and with that... i've showered and shaved... time for the and then i'm outy for work! u fellows have fun...talk to y'all later!! and hey...........let's be careful out there! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

sure it is elias..... but it's ur story..u tell it... hehe wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

don't we all... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

and if she hasn't, u need to inlighten her... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

you work for audiobahn? Sub sandwhich 4 6ft subs? damn, the female dog is hungry...i wonder if she's heard of trimspa? wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

It should be illegal to go to work that early. You're not missing much. Just a bunch of teenagers having a cock fight, pun intended. agreed... ca.com wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

this 1am chit is for the birds..big time... though last nite was sweet.... 1)went tanning (had too, don't wanna fry in jamaica) 2)went swimming here at the house. water was 85* and awesome 3)banged the wifey in the shower...that was just way too much fun..hehe wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee