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i'd say as low as 250-300 will more then get it moving..but 500-600 is better adn 750-900 is awesome! and teh 12" rl-p loves 1.25ft^3 sealed!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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...unless an orion 2500d is way overrated at 2 ohm... Ding Ding Ding! We have a Winner! - For the record Impedence rise = female dog. Briefly...of course...ever put 15kw of actual power to a "SQ" woofer for 3 seconds? You'll see pics soon...and numbers kewl! and just what are u meaning by box impedence = female dog?? just curious as i'm trying to learn all i can... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

sweet tom! ummmmm...i'm bored. i wish this finance thing would hurry up..lol....i wanna go somewhere...just dunno where...lol wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

just got back from the buick rainier test drive..WOW that thing is awesome!! the 4.2 (3?)ltr inline six sounds like a small v8 and runs like it too!! shuts off at 105mph..lol.... anyway, waiting to hear if the financing goes through.... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

x2!! lol wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ummm, yeah, it is. rated anyway, without graphing the impedence rise of the enclosure....unless an orion 2500d is way overrated at 2 ohm... also, like i stated elsewhere, while the gain on the amp is still set about 2/3 of the way, the sub control on the hu (eclipse 3434) is set on 8 outa 16....and no, it don't like 1700wrms (rated) at full tilt for more then one burp...lol.... so in one sense, ur right...it's not getting the full 1700wrms all the time. but it has handled it, albeit very briefly. and that's all it'll ever handle it as i'm not popping it for no reason. ( i fuess that makes u right about two things...lol...the coil won't take it for long) wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

nick, the proto will be shipped within the hour!! thanks again!! one day, i'd like to run ur 12 against the rl-p head to head...i think it would be an awesome test/comparo. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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and to the haters of the buick..lol.. i likes it.. leather, dvd, lowered a bit, totally optioned up....and if we get it, possibly the future home of the rl-i8....and that means i get the rl-p!!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

holy son of a post wh0re captain....almost 2k in posts today supa?? :bowdown: that is wh0ring at it's finest right there....WOW! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lol..yep..i likes when littlie birdies whisper stuff...lol.. but this little birdie will probably smack me for calling him a lil birdie...hehe wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

off topic, but the more i look at the banner in req's sig, the more i like it. mike, maybe that should be the logo that goes on the subs....that mirror image thing with the big one in the center is just too cool. and of course cut req a bit of a deal on his rl-s for the design...hehe wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i see what ur saying, but even "developed", it wasn't used. probably due to what u and cb have stated, as well as all xbl fans, the increased inductance and such. however, technologies improve. materials improve. even in xbl drivers. so while the technology is basiclly the same, materials might not be. or whatever. so to use the blanket statement xbl>LMT without a conclusive test, or even a respectable head to head comparo, is premature. especially from someone whom u say is inexperienced. (though i'd say he's well read, even for 15) i understand that's his opinion, but not a well founded one. and again, when one reads the reviews done by those few with LMT drivers, xbl is always on the short end. i have yet to read one review that stated that xbl is better. and supa...lol.....thanks. but i like cb, for 15 he's handles this very maturely. so i'll stay outa the ring with him..lol....'sides, win or lose, i go to jail... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ok guys...this whorefest that is planned... flood pennis out..lol..spam the chitouta this place..hehe i've got a delete button...hehe i'm out for the night fellows.. btw..kinda cheesy, but i'm tired..so i don't care.. thanks guys...i'm glad i'm a member here. see ya tomorrow....gonna go look at a 2005 buick rainer (sp?) for the wifey... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

sweet! and u know eD is trustworthy when he had to create his own forum to keep from getting bashed...adn then bans ppl who do bash him. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ok..on paper is one thing, in real world apps is another. there are just too many varibles to say the xbl>LMT when LMT is just a proto. when after it is readily available and shortcomings are known, then possibly i could see the statement xbl>LMT. yet on the flipside, those with LMT proto drivers say they kick the hell outa xbl drivers. so one could say that LMT > xbl based upon real world reviews of prototypes. i'm not arguing about what the technology incorperates or is, i'm just stating that one can't say xbl> LMT until they get ran side by side... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

no eD subs, but an IDMAX. and guess who builds the eD subs now? it'll be biased. it's ben milne for pete's sake..lol.... and he won't let the soon to be publicly available rl-s in? or the uber? which can be bought by the public for $999 thru tcsounds directly..(as told to me by a lil birdie) wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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i think that xbl^2 is a great technology, but it has it's issues has well. but ur correct on the sq part. that is simply going to be up to each and everyone's own taste. my main problemn with cb's post was the "xbl>LMT"...i was just curious has to how he would know. i'm not trying to dog xbl...but i do think the re xxx is overly hyped. as to ppl tearing chit up, well, it's kinda hard to argue with that...lol wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I tell you what.....I'm half tempted to pick up a damned 12" Ava just to do a side-by-side comparo between them.....LOL Damnit...I may just give Chad a call Monday that would be kewl..lol.. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

awesome!!! man o man...SS subs rock!! they get low too...even the eights!! wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ryan...the wifey says ok, but u have to make a couple of the payments first....lol.. aaron..not yet...but pics will be happening this weekend. hopefully i'll get a digi camera and get a vid...and yeah, it's quite a difference in the truck...and it's getting 1700wrms (rated) from my orion 2500d, conservatitvely of course...hehe wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

have u heard an LMT enabled driver? have u heard one side by side an xbl^2 enabled driver? if not how can u say that xbl owns LMT? and until u do, i don't think u should make the comparision. i haven't heard an LMT driver yet, but i've owned an xbl driver.(re xxx) and IMO, it wasn't all that. while a great driver, it, IMHO, doesn't deserve all the hype it gets. and i'm not the only person who's stated that certain xbl drivers don't achieve what they say, especially in sealed applications. sorry about the rant, but with LMT just coming to the public and such a limited few owning/listening to it and giving it rave reviews, i don't see how xbl>LMT is possible...at least not yet. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i agree about hte IDMAX eDuh connection...kinda biased right there. also, the solo x?? against an w7, IDMAX and whatever other subs he has listed..off just 1200-1400wrms? and he's going to build a manufactores recommended box for each one? nope..it's not biased at all...... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee