Mr.MartyStone

Yeah they can be a pain with the window motors always going out, the northstar is a wretched design but makes good power and will last a while if you take good care of it. I'll post pics up in a few days, I'm going to start pulling the back seat and rear deck tomorrow to start fabbing some stuff up, the trunk cantilever system is the only hiccup i have to get around. Maybe just throw a few gas rods in there...we'll figure something out. I just want this to look 100% factory with nothing exposed or an eye sore of any kind.

Nope don't have to, just liked Morel stuff in previous home audio projects i've done. I have no qualms about picking a different tweeter. chit pick me out a wonderful two way setup for my active 2 way front stage setup...I thought I had it pat... Marty

good read man, thanks for the article! I'll probably go with the 6.5" and play with x-over frequencies in the 4000hz range then. thanks, Marty

Yeah the TB w6 looked very interesting, I have a decent amount of experience with the TB-873's in a mini line array dipole setup for my home audio frugalphile fix. They worked well, just wondering if I have that much mounting depth. I'm pulling a door panel today to verify... I'd love to be able to fit the 8"er and will check into the seas drivers as well. Thanks for your input...

I need a capable speaker I can put in my door, 6.5-8" That I can use in the stock Deville location. Will be crossed over active 80-2100ish 4th order on the high pass to a Morel MDT-12 in the a-pillar. http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=277-060 Amplifier is a sundown 4100D and will be fully active using Audiocontrol or zapco x-over eq setup. I was thinking of either the Vifa P21wo-20 or something similar. I absolutely love the smoothness of the Vifa midrangers, and would like an input if somebody has something maybe a little better application wise in mind. I don't know if I can sink a 8"er in the door yet but i'll be measuring here shortly to figure out semantics... http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=297-310 If I have to stick with a 6.5" it will most likely be this guy... http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=297-305 Any other suggestions? looking to spend 200 bucks or so on the pair, less if there is better, a little more if something sticks out...

Woot woot!!! Ordered (2) IB15's...rear deck fabrication might be tricky with relocating the trunk cantilever system and moving the seatbelt mounts. I think i'll be able to figure it out...

Well after chatting it up with Nick, I am pulling the trigger on two IB15" subs in the rear deck. I'm pretty pumped to get this setup going, just have to order my front soundstage tonight after I figure out what depths I can get away with and the subs tomorrow once my other check comes in. Nate

Regardless, I'd like the specs. The specifications posted in the home theater shack forum are for the old IB2 setup. I need T/S parameters if anyone has them.

Can somebody post them up? Trying to see if they'll work on my rear deck using the 19.1 cubic foot Cadillac Deville trunk...

Yeah I checked them over but don't like the fact there are no T/S parameters listed on their site. I'll give them a call today and see what they have to say, their IB 15's look like they could be a winner given certain requirements. I like the XBL motor setup on the diycable drivers, just always loved the low distortion figures of those motors which is why I sought them out. Plus being only $140 doesn't hurt either.

Just measured, my rear deck is about 49" Wide and almost 20" Deep at center, tapers off to 17" or so deep at the ends. At that rate I could put 2 or possibly 3 15" versions on the rear deck. Would the 19.1 Ff^3 of trunk space be okay for these? Also I've never built an IB setup specifically for a vehicle, I know there is a little less low end extension but i have plenty of EQ to take care of that. Will I still have good output with 2 15" versions in an IB setup? I'd like to have a very capable system on the lowend that can keep up with my front soundstage. And I also imagine I'd have to block off the pass through as well correct?

Thanks man, I'm going to go do some more measuring and see if I can fit a 15" on the rear deck. It's either this route or maybe re-explore my options.

I'd like to keep the footprint as small as possible into the trunk, I did consider 2 15" models in a clamshell, but i'd still have to remove the factory 10" on the rear deck and block it off somehow. Plus the 15" version is 8 ohm essentially limiting my amplifier choices with 2 of them. Yes the plan is to have them vent via the pass through, and I can realistically modify the passthrough to be larger but would prefer not to as to keep it as factory looking as possible. If I went with 15" and used two or so, the baffles would protrude another 5-6" into the trunk. I would consider a 12" variant if it has the XBL motor setup, I really love the sound of those motors. Also if I were to go this route, would the sundown 1200D get it done?

Here is my plan, I'm open to any input but I think this is the setup that is best going to meet my goals. First off, car is a 2004 deville with stock 10" IB sub on the rear deck. There is also a center armrest with a 9" x 11" opening into the trunk. I plan to use 6 of the Exodus Audio 10" drivers, one in the stock location, and the other 5 in a roughly 12-13" cube, one on each side and one on the rear that feeds through into the cab somewhat like the home theater guys do with their basements. The subs are 8 ohms (6.1 nominal) so 6 should help me maximize whatever amp I choose to use. Looking at probably a Sundown 2000D or 3000D. http://www.diycable.com/main/product_info....e08050c314aaef9 I guess my main question is, with 19.1 cubic feet before the mild displacement of subs and cube in the trunk, is this going to function as enough of a trunk for an IB setup? I'm after SQ here and already have my front/rear stage and dampening materials picked out. Last piece of the puzzle is just finding the bottom 2 octaves. I like tight accurate bass that can go low and am not really after A huge box in my trunk or world record sound pressure levels, although I do love volume when cranking up some of my favorite live albums. Thanks guys, Marty